13 MARCH 1886, Page 2

Mr. Richard seconded Mr. Dillwyn, and Mr. Albert Grey then

moved the amendment intended to indicate that the true path of reform is not Disestablishment, but comprehension so as to include the chief Welsh Churches within the scope of the Estab- lishment. Mr. Raikes, in resisting both the motion and the amendment, actually maintained,—contrary, we believe, to the whole drift of the evidence,—that the Established Church is the largest of the denominations in Wales, and he insisted on.the frequent use made of the Churches of the Establishment even by Welshmen who are professed adherents of 'other sects. In the end, the main division took place not on Mr. Dillwyn's resolu- tion, but on the question whether it should be put to the vote unamended, or be amended as Mr. Albert Grey proposed. Two hundred and twenty-nine voted against its being amended at all, including several (especially three Cabinet Ministers, Sir W. Harcourt, Mr. Childers, and Mr. Mundella) who intended to vote against Mr. Dillwyn's resolution had it been put to-the House. There were, however, 241 in favour of amending its terms before taking the vote, in order that the vote might be taken on Mr. Albert Grey's amended resolution. Thus it was carried by a majority of 12 that the resolution should be amended. It was then carried by 251 against 152, or by a majority, of 99, that Mr. Albert Grey's words be inserted; after which, the resolution as it stood in Mr. Albert Grey's form,—that is, de- claring that the Established Church had failed in Wales, and that it needed to be so reformed as to be better .adapted to the needs of the Welsh people,—was rejected by 346 to 49; majority against Mr. Albert Grey, 297. Whatever the House thinks on Disestablishment, it emphatically condemns the opening-out of the Establishment into an asylum for all religions.