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In consequence of an article contained in Mr. Roebuck's weekly pamphlet of the 12th November, under the head of " Mr. N. Goldsmid and Mr. Jolua Black, the Editor of the Morning Chronicle," the following correspondence and occurrences have taken place, viz.


" 332, Strand, 13th November 1835.

•• Sir- In a pamphlet purporting to be ' Prospects of the Coming Session, by J. A. Roeleick, M.P.' there is an article with your mitiels attached to it, in which great liberties are taken with my character, and in particular cowardice is imputed to me. and the epithets • base' anti' utterly disgraceful' are also applied to my conduct ; and I am told, if I have any shame left 1 must now heattily repent of what is imputed to me. In the sante article it is also stated, that a correspondelice betueen a Mr. (ioldsmid anmi myself was published in the Chronicle. This I deny, as no such correspondence ever appeared in that paper. " I wish to know whether you ore the author of the article containing these offensive reserve. n s. and if you are, I the call on you to retract them. without qualification or se

"My friend who delivers this will convey to me your answer.

" I am, Sir, your obedient servant."

(NO. 2.) LETTER FROM MR. 31‘CILLIVRAY TO MR. ROEBUCK. " No. 13, Salisbury Street, London, 14th November 1235.

" Sir-I left a note for you this morning at sour chambers, No. 5. Raymond's Buildings, it being the duplicate of one previously left at the chambers of Mr. Falconer, No. 9, Gray's Inn Square, to whom reference is pasted upon your door, and the object of both notes being to apprize yuu that I have a conununication to make requiring your immediate attention. " I had previously without success made inquiry respecting year address of the pub- lisher or lour weekly pamphlet. A repeated application to the SAITIe quarter Las obtained the address to which this letter is directed, and I therefore adopt this mode or conveying to you the intimation already given as abovementioucill, that 1 have a com- munication to make requiring your immediate attention.

" I shall, therelore, expect to hear from )on in reply to this ; and I hope to be in- formed when and where you can afford me the opportunity of delivering personally the communication with which 1 am intrusted. J. A. Roebuck, Esq. M.P." " I have the honour, /cc."


" Christchurch, Dards, 15th November ISA

" Sir-I am now staying at Mndeford, near Christchurch, Dates. This letter will reach you tomorrow morning. You u ill probably leave. London on Monday evening and arrive here on Tuesday morning at 12. I will at that time be at liumby's Hotel Christchurch. " I make these arrangements, as I am desirous of so managing affairs as not to let any one have any idea of the purport of your visit, which I suppose from your letter to be a hostile one. " If by any accident you should not arrive at Christchurch on Tuesday morning, write me a note from the hotel, asking me for a frank for Mr. John Smith. I shall then know that you are arrived, and no one w ill be on the qui rice, by a stranger making application for um. In a little place like this, such prei.autions Sr. necessary. "I am sorry you have bad any trouble in finding me. All the world, I thought, knew that last week I was at Bulb, and all my friends know that I have been here since the session. Your complaints have induced me to say thus much, though I do not think auy blame fairly attaches to me.

" I am, Sir, your obedient Servant.

"Simon '4'G illivray, Esq. J. A. Roast/cc."

In compliance with this appointment, Mr. Black and Mr. M‘Gillivray pro- ceeded to Christchurch, where they arrived on Tuesday morning ; and at art interview at the King's Arms Hotel, Mr. APGillivray delivered Mr. Black's letter to Mr. Roebuck, who acknowledged himself to be the author of the article complained of, and refused to retract any part of it. He proposed also to write to London for a friend to act for him. Mr. APGillivray objected to the delay, and said, that as Mr. Roebuck had recognized his letter to be a hostile one, he expected to have found him more prepared. Mr. Roebuck re- plied, that the delay was Mr. M‘Gillivray's own fault, in not having commu- nicated more clearly the object of his mission ; and he declined either coming to London or appointing a friend on the spot, both which plans had been sug- gested by Mr. APGillivray. In short, Mr. Roebuck refused any other alterna- tive than to write to London for a friend, and to meet again at the same place OD Thursday at noon ; and finally Mr. APGillivray acquiesced in this pro- posal. On Thursday the 19th, Mr. Black and Mr. 3PGillivray accordingly returned to Christchurch; when Mr. Roebuck introduced Mr. Revans to Mr. M‘Gil- livray as his friend ; and, after some discussion and preliminary arrangements, a meeting took place, of which the following correspondence will give a suffi- cient report.


"Mr. 5PGillieray presents his compliments to Mellevans, and, as it will scarcely be possible to preveut some pultlic notice of the meeting today, he begs to suggest the enclosed statement for Mr. Revans' cousideration."

(No. 5.) COPT OF THE STATEMENT ENCLOSED IN NOTE NO. IV. "Mr. Revans, on behalf of Mr. Roebuck, admitted that the correspondence between Mr. Black sad Mr. Goldsmid not having been published in the Morning Chronicle, Mr. Roebuck's publication was so far untrue. and there could be no difficulty in retracting it. As to the imputation of cowardice, it had not been intended ' • Mit Mr. Roebuck lutd rialto considered Mr. Black to bra philosopher, and slot a likely person to light dhotis As to the epithets ' base anti utterly disgraceful, as applied to the publication a the letter about Mr. Goldsmith Mr. Roebuck refused to retract them ; and upou that ground r ntir ill"entlohLieidto:eclg.tebawtshovcdtllvly.:r.touc.athefrs:i.reiwduea .alove.anleipye(per,onai respect for Mr. Black but being required to retract the terms* base and utterly dig- graceful.' he refused to do so. and Mr. Black's friend deemed it necessary to in oceed ; when a second shot was Bred without effect ; and some conversation eusuetl, in which Mr. Roebuck 'erased any further concession than repeating his high respect for Mr. Black; and Mr. Black's second did not deem it necessary, on his behalf', to carry the matter further."


Mr. Reran presents his compliments to Mr. M'Gillivray, and begs to state that ho will forward. by to-night's post, to Mr. Falconer. a statement approved of by himself and by Mr. Roebuck. In the mean time. Mr. AVG illivray can publish any statement he may please upon his own responsibility.

° Thursday, 19th November."

This statement is accordingly published on Mr. M'Gillivray's responsibility. —Courier, Nov. 20.

The Globe of the same date contained Mr. Revans' version of the affair. The Standard also appears to have received a copy of this mani- festo ; but declined to insert it, on account of its ex pane complexion. After quoting Mr. Black's letter, of tbe 13th, delivered to Mr. Roe- buck at Mudiford on the 17th by Mr. MiGillivray, the account in the Globe proceeds as follows.

To this Mr. Roebuck answered verbally- 1. That be was the author of the paper in question. 2. That he had no retractation to make.

3. And that he would at once send for a friend who would be at Christchurch co Thursday morning, at twelve.

Mr. M'Gillivray said this was inconvenient ; and asked Mr. Roebuck to go to London. Mr. Roebuck declined, and said that his friend would be at Christchurch at the thus mentioned.

On Thursday, Mr. Revans arrived, and acted for Mr. Roelmck. Mr. Re 'al e on being introduced to Mr. Itl‘Gillivray said that as it appeared that the cor- respondence between Mr. Black and Air. Goldsmid had not been copied into the Morning Chronicle, Mr. Roebuck was, of course, willing to admit that in this he was in error. Mr. Revans also felt authorized in siying that Mr. Roe- buck had never intended to impute cowardice to Mr. Black ; that he really be- lieved him to be a philosopher, and, as such, would of course not fight. This was all Mr. Revat s cou'tl admit. Mr. M‘Gillivray desired a retractafon of the words "base" and "disgraceful," which was not granted. Thereupon a meet- ing was immediately arranged. Mr. Roebuck received Mr. Black's fire, fired in the air, and advancing towards Mr. Black, said, " Now, Sir, I again repeat that I had no intention of imputing cowardice to you. I find I was led into error in stating that the correspondence between you and Mr. Goldsmid was copied into the Ma fling Chronicle, which I have been informed is not the fact. But I am still of the same opinion respecting the conduct of yourself towards Mr. Guldsmid ; and I vindicate to myself the right of stating my opinion of the public act of a public man."

Mr. M‘Gillivray then insisted that the words "base" and " disgraceful" should be retracted, as he said they could without dishonour to Mr. Roebuck. Mr. Roebuck answered, that his opinion respecting the conduct in question re- mained unchanged ; that he could not say he did not think it base and dia. graceful ; it was dishonest and unjust, and still, in his opiniun, disgraceful. On this Mr. M‘Gillivray said that the affair must go on, unless Mr. Roe- buck consented to withdraw the expressions complained of. Mr. Roebuck walked back to his gro ttttt I and shots were then exchanged, but without effect. Mr. Roebuck asked what was now required ; and an apology was again de- manded and refused. Mr. Revans observed, that they were there with their minds made up, and that if Mr. M‘Gillivray desired, the affrir must go on. Mr. INI‘Gillivray here declared that he was the proprietor of the Morning Chronicle, and that Mr. Black ought not to be further exposed on scenunt of that journal. Mr. Roebuck asked if that was meant as a threat. Mr Rollins here reminded Mr. M'Gillivray, that though he might be the proprietor of the Chronicle, in this 0174 lie was a second, and that if he desired to fight, it must of course be with the other second. Mr. Fe ails further observed, that he was ready to meet Mr. M'Cillivray immediately in any way he might desire. Mr. M'Gillivray then observed, that he did not know Mr. Revans ; and Mr. Roe- buck answered, Sir, I am a sufficio t guarantee for any ma':: Mr.:Reva a s a friend of mine, and I desire that no altercation of this sort may proceed. It you are not satisfied, I am here, and you must determine for yourself what you will do. I am not to be driven from what I believe just by any threats of assassina- tion. I vindicate to myself the right of saying that I think the conduct of a public man base and disgraceful,' and I will not he driven from this. Choose what you will do." On this Mr. decided that the affair should end. Mr. Roebuck then said to Mr. Black, "I have respect for you, Sir ; but though I say this of you, I still assert my right to speak of your acts as I have done. It must now, how- ever, be distinctly understood that hereafter Mr. Black is personally responsible for every thing said in the Morning Chronicle, amd by me will be held so." Mr. Black replied, that he did not think what Mr. Roebuck was now doing would do him credit. Mr. Roebuck replied that he himself must be allowed to judge for himself. Subsequently, Mr. Itl‘Gillivray sent it statement of the proceedings to Mr. Revans for approval ; who rep' e that Mr. M‘Gillivr ay was at liberty to publish any statement on his own responsibility. SAM REVA N. 19th November 183.5.

The Chronicle of this morning inserts the following explanation by Mr. M'Gillivray.

MR, MICILLIVEAT'S OBSERVATIONS UPON MR. REVA NS' STATEMENT. ()othiS statement of Mr. Revans I have only two olHervations to offer. First, in regard to Mr. Roebuck's having fired in the air. If such was the case, I was not aware of it ; and the idea of its having been the case never occurred to me till 1 saw the statement in the columns of the Globe. I cannot sav that such was not the ease. I cannot say from my own knowledge whether 111r. Roebuck did or did not fire in the air; and Mr. Black is equally unable to confirm or to contradict that statement. Mr. Revans did not state to me that Lis principal had tired in the air. It is true that in a conversation which fol- lowed the first shot, Mr. Roebuck said, " You saw how I fired ;" and I under- stood that to allude to careless firing, as to taking aim ; but both pistols were fired simultaneously on the word being given ; and I repeat I had no idea of Mr. Roebuck having fired in the air till I saw it so stated in the Globe. Next, as to my having declared myself to be the proprietor of the Morning Chronicle. I have no hesitation in admitting that my having referred to that subject at all was unuremeditated, and provoked by unexpected pettinacity, ex- pressed in terms which I considered unnecessarily offensive on the p..rt of Mr. Roebuck. In stating that I did not know Mr. Weans, although such was literally the fact, my meaning was merely that I did not know him in that question, and had no cause of quarrel with him; and en Mr. Roebuck's vouch- ing for him as a gentleman, I replied that I had said nothing to the contrary. In regard, I ever, to the declaration ascribed to me, as to the Morning Chronicle, what I said was, not that I was the proprietor, but a proprietor of that journal. " SIMON 1WGILLIV RAY." [Two of the Evening Papers contain "Remarks by Mr. Revans on Mr. M`Gilliirry's comment ; " which, if it should seem neces!ary, we may insert next week, not being able to make room for them here.]