23 MARCH 1839, Page 9

In the House of Commons, last night, lord 'Tons Russum

stated the course which Government had resolved to take in consequence of the vote in the House of Lords for a Committee on the state of Ireland- " I rise to move the postponement of some of the milers of the din., and first of all, the committal of the Munieilta Corporation, (Ireland) Bi11, which I propose shall be taken on :Monday, the 15th of April. In moving this post- ponement, I will take this oppect unity of stating to the !louse. that it is my minutes of proceedings of the House of' Lords, that that House of Parliament K t ao early hour this morning, appointed a Select Committee to inquire into the state of Ireland since IS.35, in respect of the crimes and outrages which had rendered life and property insecure in that part of the empire. Now, without -wishing to enter into an orpiment with respect to the propriety of appointing that Conttnittee,—whieh it does not become me, particularly at this time, to enter into,-1 think it is obvious, that the appolutment of such a Committee, fixitte. the date of the commencement of the inquiry to be the year 1835, and directing the investigation to be mode upon the subject of crime and outrage and the ieseeurity of life and property, must induce a general belief' throughout the empire, and more especially in that part of the country which it affects, that it is ittefided to transfer the executive goveroment of Ireland to a Select Com- mittee of one House of Parliament, and that it is more especially intended to call into question the exereise of olio of' the highest prerogatives of the Crown—the exercise of the prerogative of mercy, by calling witnesses before the House. 1 do not say that there may not be circumstances which may jostify such a course; I do not say at this moment whether there are or are not ; and I %till not enter into the question whether the House of Lords may itet have had arguments adduced betbre them to induce them to adopt such a 4.coirse: but this I must say, that no person can proceed to carry ou the govern- ment of Irehtud, as Lord-Lieutenant of that part of the United Kingdom, without being assured whether it is the iotention of the House of Commons that those principles which have eoverned the administration of Ireland since 1835 should be adhered to, or whether they should be now abandoned. (Loud cheers.) In conformity with the declaration lvhich Lord Melbourne has made atverious tint, ,e—but in conformity more particularly with one especial de- claration of thet wad.: lord that he held office only so long as be retained the confidence of the House of Commons, I think it inctindtent upon me, not leaving it tn ane ether Member of Parliament who may not be connected with the Government, to bring this guy ion to iiIi issue dircetly—( ebeering)— wbet her this liouse adheres to the principle upon which the :alministration of the government of Ireland lie.t leen conducted. I am perfi..etly aware, that with respect to legislative measures, there have been cases which have induced this Hume to object to Certain nLasures, which we ourselves thought proper to be ftdopted, and we have not teen able to carry them through Parliament ; but then, tve have been able to do ceriainly—we have bven aide, with the confidence, as 1 believe (Zone IfourO, ::110. 1601. the forherrat:ce of the other, to carry on the :1A- m:hist-ration of Ireittlet iu a Ivey. cvlirl. e thonjit wool,: conduce to the peace era preseerity of thel part or the empile. It L., en this question, then, that I shall think it accessary to lot: the cipatice of this Ilmise, %vIlvtlii't it i"iiiTtised to approve of my toble friAol Lord Elaing:on, vhi s ab011t to proceed as Lord- Lienterent to :lett etry, em, tinuing in the nedmennece and execution of the bee. in the :sm.' illao.f or as that in width it which hos hitherto been con- ducuel ; am be iI ctn it' tlt:: lletwe is pleased to agree upon that subject ; bet if it sh,i jet I. pLosed to epprove of this plan, end think that it shall now la: alatieto. H. test tie et'ter prineiphs shall be adoptea and. maintained, in the:- case tle-re is imt !dog L A but to eto itihi into other hands the govern- raeut cf this country." rd.)

Molly orders of the day were put off. No remark was made, on either side of the Homo!, on Lori:: John Russeli's announcement.

The I louse went into Committee on the Army Estimates ; into the details of which Lord HowicK entered at great length. Many of his statements were unintelligible, in consequence of the noise which pre- vailed ; hut the result is, that a considerable increase has been made to the Army sinCV CIIC LCtlllatL were fronted, and that the total augmenta-

tion will 9,4 e. The sum be asked the Committee to vote, after in:thine: deductioro fecon the expense of the non-eireetive depart- ments, would he I s :soOet. ; Lot Lord Howick regretted tied a greet part of the expettses of the war in Clinadil, Of \Odell be led received no regular account, remained to belprovided for. [lu a subsequent part of the discussion. Captain llot.OF.1:0 estinetted this additional amount at three milliens Sir 111:NRY e-ent hen a (to:lulled exerelnation of the state of the Army ; he s, I• hitt :11.(ii!!;!' the recent nup-inentations, was still l.elow the peace o: It:Id:slat:en; of the Duke of Wellinotoa in 1829. No's' Cae eoutoey vo1 s et v av, mid a mech harper army AV as re- quired.

Mr. Cita ii 11:5 II; tiete roe vetted that .Mielsters did not act together, and that wheo the elecreetry at War determined to keep up a peace esta- blishmeot, the Secretary for Foreion Atfeirs did not adopt amore modest and sensible tone with fbreign powers. Mr. Buller said that there had been a want of treoes In Canada. The Costle (If Quebec had been left in a nye t ieseeure state: and now Sir John _Pt:Ivey had only 500 men— [O';,,. fltrry iJa,dioqe said, '• —:;:a.) bayonets "]—to oppose the tor to militia of Mahie, its effective ill that comitry as regular trio.-. I le condi:1111ml the nei;ligel,ve if the Ilritish Ooveim- ment on the I l, ui hOly que,:tion hick ;low, it ;zoo:a:red, might be ve serious conselemoms. i le eeeleined that the .`..Inerietms chiefly desired .asese-eion uttbe di:Toted m.erItory oil accenut of its noble forest!,

tlie:s t' :tow it the Lnited States, Lord PaLsees oe, litrat'ssr p, eoteplaieed of Mr.

Bellet'., tech:mote to. hie outetita. lie denied Ilea there wee tate .e f,r

feriae, ill he .e,te. ofotee Jaeeise 1 le not telmit :het the true pohey I f this comary Zt• in time of puree.

Sir JOHN Hoi:1;i/1",l:sal i :oat the newspepers had spread a false

alarm respecties. belie. The elem.: there had heen reiefereed, and -would receive still further augettetteeion.

The severel hems were voteel with hale further discussion, and the Chairmen le e. eked proere,ts.

llepl; Lig yl‘.,stiohs front different Members—

Mr. Seetto• tr se id, that after Ettster he should propose a mea- sure relative to .101 it ultoek Banks. end for renewing and makitig permanent the act which suspended the usury-laws affecting bills of exchange.

Lord aloe etero aneounced, that " some further proceedings" re- ttpecting Jri lteli s would be token (et the 22d of April.

Lord Paso oesToN said, that, under the Queen's aespices, negotia- tions were in progress between Chili and Buenos Ayres.

Sir RODEMT Plim.'s Election Committees Bill was read a second time ; to be committed after Easter. In the House of Lords, a rather amusing conversation between the Marquis of NORMANDY and Lord BROUGHAM occupied the greater part of the time the House sat. Lord NORMANDY complained of Lord

Brougham's speech and vote of Thursday night ; and quoted passages

front a speech delivered by Lord Brougham in 1837, approving of his policy and administration of the law in Ireland. He regretted the ne- cessity of making this complaint : friendships of twenty years standing were not lightly broken : he had the honour to possess friends on both sides of the House ; but Lord Brougham, in this matter, had not acted with sincerity.

Lord 13noranA3I was much pained—be heard the last sentence with unfeigned sorrow ; but it was some consolation to know that he bad done nothing that ought to forfeit Lord Normanby's friendship. Ma duty

compelled him to take the course he had taken. Fifteen months ago, he found out that he was mistaken respecting Lord Normanby's ad- ministration ; and on the appointment of Sheriff's in Ireland, he made a speech which so much offended Lord Normanby, that they did not ex- change words for weeks ; but, with that generosity characteristic of noble minds, Lord Normanby had forgiven him-

" Inimieitial nuntales, andeitile senipiternic"—

and he hoped the present difference would not last. But he repeated, that Lord Normanby's practice of releasing prisoners and granting par-

dons, because he happened d to make a journey from Dublin to Limerick or Cashel, was reprehensible ; and not that of British Sovereigns in modern and civilized times.