M. Thiers has had a chat'with Prince Gortschakoff at Lausanne,
and in writing to M. Jules Simon of the interview, has told him that the Prince, in spite Of the Herzegovina rising, has no anxiety as to the Eastern question, and is only seriously unhappy on one subject,—the war ,between Clericalism on the one side, and Germany, Russia, Italy, and Austro-Hungary on the other. Prince Gortachakoff appears to have said that while Clericalism has only its head in Ronie; its,;treastuy, arm, and sword are in France. The fall of M., Thiers, said the Prince, was its greatest recent 'victory. This Clericslism is creating perils for France which nothing but the good-will of' Russia could ward off, and even Russia Would share in the. anxiety of Europe, if France became a sort of Champ de Mars of 'Ultramontanism. If this conversa- tion be rightly reported, it does not look as if Russia had really made up her quarrel with the Pope, but rather as if she were anxious to publish a certain indisposition to come to a cordial understanding with France, so long as there is any fear of an Ultramontane crusade of French origin, or one fostered by Fren& aid.
