26 JULY 2003, Page 44

Noises off

Michael Vestey

Afriend who preferred to listen to Radio Two in the mornings and Radio Four at other times of the day mentioned that he'd given up an old favourite on Two, the former Jimmy Young Show now presented by Jeremy Vine. He found it to be too noisy after the calmer, measured tones of Young, who was forcibly retired by the Radio Two controller because he'd reached 80.

Tuning in recently, I knew what he meant. Vine, a perfectly accomplished interviewer but no better than Young as far as I can hear, is more frenetic in his style and speaks faster. It so happened that on this particular day one of Vine's topics was noise, not the kind made by him, but that of others around him. Armed with a tape recorder he had noticed that morning a blast from a coffee machine, a pneumatic drill, an aircraft overhead, a loud woman at the next table with what he called 'an unbroadcastable laugh' and three mobile phones ringing. Is this the price we pay for progress? he asked. My friend might tell him, now that he no longer listens to the programme, that it's not a price he's prepared to pay.

The peg for the subject was the judgment by the European Court of Human Rights overturning an earlier legal ruling that would have banned night flights on the grounds of unacceptable noise. Had the court decided otherwise a group of residents would have used to it argue that the proposed third runway at Heathrow would breach their individual rights under the European Convention. In a discussion Richard D. North, the writer on environmental issues, took the sensible view that quietness was not a human right and that if he chose to live near an airport such as Heathrow he could hardly expect to experience tranquillity. I imagine my friend. the Radio Two defector, has now found peace and quiet because he couldn't face the Radio Four alternative, You and Yours starting at the same time, noon. Apart from Radio Three, there's really only Radio Five Live and Classic FM left.

Another topic in the programme was the detention at Guantanamo Bay of two British al-Qa'eda suspects, Feroz Abbasi, 23, from Croydon, and Moazzarn Begg, 35, from Birmingham. They are among the first of 680 people classified as 'enemy combatants' to be tried by military tribunals — since suspended after the Blair intervention — and the Americans believe they have strong evidence against them, though we haven't been told precisely what

it is yet. Abbasi was arrested in Afghanistan. Begg in Pakistan. Begg's father Asmat, an articulate man, has been interviewed many times and not surprisingly has defended his son, telling Vine that he'd not done anything wrong. But how does he know?

According to a newspaper report discussed in a recent edition of Julian Wonicker, the new Sunday morning news and current affairs programme on Five Live, Begg's name was spotted on a piece of paper, some sort of money order, found in an al-Qa'eda safe house. Quoting the article, reporter Rajesh Mirchandani told the programme that three years ago, after a security services investigation, Begg was arrested after night-vision goggles and a flak jacket were found in his house in Birmingham. Mirchandani admitted that it made you wonder. It seems that Begg had gone to Afghanistan to set up a school and at the time would have had dealings with the Taliban.

His father, though, interviewed by both Worricker and Mirchandani, denied his son's involvement with the Taliban and, when asked about the goggles and flak jacket, replied, 'We've always had these sorts of things in our house, we are from a military family. ... armour and things like that ... 'He obviously thinks it's quite normal to possess such items and at this point I had to laugh. Mirchandani pressed him, though: did he wonder if he might have got his son wrong? 'No, I know my son, he wouldn't kill a fly.'

If they are tried as enemy combatants, we can expect a great deal of noise on the airwaves from human rights lawyers and campaigners complaining that the detainees are being denied civil justice. One of them on this programme was angry at what she called 'the gross abrogation of human rights which are being perpetrated by the US and British governments'. It might well be, of course, that both Abbasi and Begg are completely innocent, in which case there can be no real evidence against them and they'll be acquitted. Abbasi, though, it has to be remembered. frequented Abu Hamza's notorious Finsbury Park mosque. AntiAmericanism aside. and I sense it in various attitudes expressed, some of the human rights lawyers are, no doubt, cross at the loss of some fat fees.