27 AUGUST 1859, Page 4

Mr. Osborne made one of his usual pleasant rattling speeches

on his unopposed return fur Liskeard last Saturday. Ile denied that he was a "thick and thin supporter'' of Lord Palmerston; if he had been he might have been sent to that place "from whence no commoner returns" —[the House of Lords]. But he objected on general grounds to this sending men into the drawing-room when not wanted in the cabinet- parlour : it was making the House of Lords a waste-pipe for the sur- plusage of the House of Commons. He then contrasted the last and present Ministry—praising Mr. Disraeli as "a great states- man," who had brought his party rip to pass liberal measures. As to the present Ministry, the Premier had doubtless a difficulty : " the litter of pigs was rather too numerous for the maternal capabilities of the Down- ing Street mother." The Peelites, on account of their administrative ability, were doubtless the right men in the right places—but he re- gretted that only two of the "advanced party" were asked to the Ca- binet supper, and even they were pint at a side table. Mr. Os- borne then referred to financial questions :— " What do you suppose has been the increase in the annoy and navy these last twenty-four years ? In order that there could be no Mistake Delve made extracts from official documents. In the year 1835 the army and ordnance —now amalgamated, but that administered by separate boards—cost 7,500,000/.—a pretty sum for keeping un a small army ; and in the same year the navy cost 4,000,000/, making let us say 12,000,000/. for both ser- vices. At the present day the united estimates for annoy and navy amount to the enormous sum of 26,000,000/., double 'What it was twenty-four years ago. There may be an excuse for this, and I think there is as far as the navy is concerned, for we have had a new steam power developed through the screw ; but I wish the screw to be put on those who pass these large votes without inquiry. It is still more singular with regard to the civil service. It cost 2,000,000/. in 1835, and in 1859 it cost the country 7,825,000/. The army and navy, including the militia, have doubled since 1835, but the civil service has increased to three times the amount of cost. Then, whose fault is that ? Not the fault of the government of the day, be it Whig or Tory ; tho government always wishes to control the expenditure; but itis the fault of those individual members of the House of Commons who, instead of controlling expenditure, have each their little business—I will not say job, for that is an ugly word, and I do not want to use ugly words—and who urge on the minister of the day votes now for this and again for that : and I assert that my experience has taught me. that the members of Parliament are the worst body of men that can be found to control the expenditure of the nation. What is everybody's business is nobody's. Look at the waste- ful votes that have been given for the new House of Commons, or the Palace at Westminster, to use fashionable language. The first vote was 785,000/. but what has it run up to by not controlling the expenditure and letting an architect have his own way From first to last the building has cost the country about three millions. And now they have put up a clock there with hands so heavy that they will neither go nor stand. (Laughter.)

He hoped if the Income-tax were continued beyond 1830, it would be adjusted so that professional incomes will be placed on a different footing from income derived from fee-simple estate. As to Reform he had con- fidence in Lord John Russell—but probably the leaders of all parties Mr. W. S. Lindsay came to an explanation with his constituents at Sunderland on Monday. It will be remembered that Mr. Lindsay was one of the very few Liberal Members who supported Lord Derby's Government on the want of confidence question, and that the dipleasure of his constituents was expressed in a circular signed by some of the most influential Liberals of the town calling on him to resign. Mr. Lindsay made a long speech to justify himself. He said that Lord Palmerston was not a better reformer than Lord Derby ; and he made a curious revelation as to some private negotiations which preceded the division on the confidence motion. He had not supported Lord Derby, he said, except upon conditions, and these conditions were in writing.

" The conditions were these :—first, in regard to Reform—that the late Government should declare that they were prepared to bring in a bill, and to use all their power to pass it, which should provide for boroughs a six pound rental franchise, and for counties a ten pound rental franchise ; and that at least thirty of the smaller boroughs should be disfranchised. That was one of the conditions which he made before he would promise his support to the late Administration. Had he not proved himself an earnest reformer by that condition ? The next was this : that the Government should pledge themselves to take all necessary steps to maintain an honest . and honourable neutrality, showing also that they were determined to take part with neither of the belligerents, and that they were prepared to defend to the utmost the honour and the interests of England, if either should be attacked. These were the conditions, and these were the only conditions which he enforced when he gave his consent to oppose that party move which was headed by Lord John Russell. Now, as they were aware, on the first night of the debate, immediately- after the seconder of the amendment sat down, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, as the representative of the Go- vernment in the House of Commons, rose in his place in Parliament, and gave distinctly his pledges to those conditions.

[We fear Mr. Lindsay must presume that his auditors at Sunderland are too far north to read the Parliamentary debates. Mr. Disraeli never uttered any statement in the House pledging himself or his party to a six-pound franchise or to the abolition borough of thirty boroughs.] Mr. Lindsay made a second speech on Tuesday night. A cabinet containing the works of Shakespeare, Bacon, Milton, and Burns, was pre- sented to him by the working (men of the borough (Tynemouth), and in thanking them, he referred to the subject of strikes. He fully admitted the right of the men to combine to increase the value of their labour, but he asked, is it for their interest to combine ? He believed that they lost in the long run whenever they attempted by combination to " force " an increase of labour.

" There are in Sunderland and this port various grades of shipbuilders. There is one who, by his greater skill and greater energy, has more orders for ships. Iie can afford to pay the workmen 5s. a day, and make a profit; and what right have the other masters to dictate to such a shipbuilder as that, and say that, because they are only paying 4s. a day to the carpenters, he shall not give more than 4s. a day ? Why, if it is worth his while to give 5s. a day, the other masters have no right to say that he shall not give 5s. He only gives 5s. a day on the presumption that he will get value for what he has given to the men. Therefore it is as impolitic as unwise on the part of the masters to enter into these combinations as it is on the part of the men. That was the operation of the attempt to regulate prices ; and the same thing, I will candidly tell you, exists with regard to wages—be it on the part of the masters or on that of the men. Why should the indolent man who, perhaps, working as hard as he usually will work, makes 4s. a day, be plaited u on the same footing as the fine, manly, energetic fellow in the same line, o could make his 7s. or 8s. a day ? Why, do you think that those intelligent men throughout England will continue to stand that ? No ; as they get more knowledge, as they get more educated, they will find that these combinations among themselves are only tying their hands, cur- tailing their energy, and limiting their skill, for the benefit of the indolent and less efficient class of workmen."

Judge Haliburton_ (" Sam Slick"). who was present concurred, and made the curious remark that it was in rich countries in which strikes could be indulged; they indicated prosperity. In the United States the working men could not remain out for a week. " Loud laughter " hailed this comparison.

would be ready enough to facilitate it. "I believe if Lord Derby and - Mr. Disraeli and Mr. Gladstone and Lord John Russell were to meet in ; a room together, and consult without regard to party, they would come to s the conclusion of introducing a very satisfactory Reform Bill." As to

t electoral corruption, he hinted that the House of Commons was not very earnest in hunting it down, and he anticipated with some satisfaction the • coming exposure on the packet contract system. Turning to another topic he said he did not share the invasion panic : he believed in the clear-sightedness of the Emperor of the French, who would nat find it c his interest to go to the war with this country. In conclusion he advo-

cated the Ballot, and denounced the compromise of election petitions.

A rather interesting demonstration of the Liberals of Winchester took place on Wednesday. At the general election the Liberals hoped to give Mr. Bonham-Carter a Liberal colleague in the person of Mr. J. Shaw Lefevre. They were unsuccessful; but to keep heart in the party and in honour of their old and respected Member, they gave a banquet on Wednesday, at which Mr. Bonham-Carter and Mr. Lefevre were the chief guests.

Mr. Bonham-Carter made some shrewd remarks on a phrase recently in vogue. He said— There was a phrase which was exceedingly common in men's mouths, namely, " measures not men" ; but, for his own part, he did not believe in one without the other. If a man, entertaining strong convictions upon particular questions, consented, under the pressure of circumstances, under what was commonly called " expediency," to give one good measure, adopted from his political opponents, he did not think the country was bound to place perpetual confidence in him on that account alone. Instead of " measures, not men," the cry should be " measures and men, and men by their measures " We could not in this country do without party. A game of cricket could not be played without two sides, and so it was with almost everything else. If there was a desire to reach the truth at last, there must be open discussion; and all that he complained of on the part of the Conservatives was, that they should endeavour to gain political capital by carrying out the measures of their opponents, and by adopting opinions and principles in which they had not the slightest belief. After Mr. Lefevre and Mr. T. G. Baring, M.P., had spoken, Sir J. C. Jervoisc, M.P., made a rather amusing speech:—

He did not believe in the probability of an invasion; but he had once heard a remark from a female friend which he thought was very apropos at the present moment. The lady in question was not a very good horse- woman, but was very fond of riding, though she always preferred a re- markably quiet horse. She used to say that "she wasn't afraid of being killed on horseback, but she was very much afraid of being frightened." That was exactly the position in which we stood in this country. lie must confess that, for one, he was very much afraid of being frightened. When there was a panic in this country down went the funds, and ruin ensued to thousands of families. He wished to see such a state of things in this country as would prevent hectoring on the one hand and timidity on the other. With regard to the House of Commons, of which he happened to be but a very young Member, he could not help remarking that, so far as ex- perience went, Parliament already consisted of far too ninny Members. It was a standing order that if forty Members were not present no business should be transacted, but he thought the rule should be reversed, and that whenever the Speaker found that there were more than forty Members in attendance, lie should declare that there was " no house "—(hrev/der). At present so many Members desired to distinguish themselves in the eyes of their constituents that a great waste of time was occasioned, and the pro- gress of public business was materially retarded by the delivery of un- necessary speeches.

A close contest has ensued at Berwick on the election of a successor to Mr. Erie (one of the Conservative members), who resigned in fear of a petition, and with the express intention of allowing the Liberals one of the seats—to which end he and his colleague, Captain Gordon, bound them- selves not to oppose the election of a Liberal, and to dissuade all their friends from any such opposition. The local Tories, however, disre- garded this compact ; and though Mr. Hodgson opposed Mr. Marjori- banks, the Liberal candidate—not without asuspicion that the heads of the party in London gave an underhand aid to the opposition—the result at the close of the poll was—Marjoribanks, 305 ; Hodgson, 301; majority for the Liberal, 1.

The vacancy at Hull caused by the unseating on petition of Mr. Joseph Hoare, the Conservative member, has been filled by the election of another Conservative—Mr. Joseph Somes, shipowner of London. Mr. Harvey Lewis, Liberal, who contested the borough at the General Election, again made a stout fight, but was again defeated—this time by 2068 to 1579.

The Duke of Newcastle, after having inspected the Nottingham Volun- teer Rifle Corps, at Mapperley, near Nottingham, on Tuesday, briefly addressed the men. He expressed his satisfaction at the progress they had made in drill and discipline, and at the feeling of patriotism which they have evinced by their enrolment—

He had not looked with any distrust on the formation of rifle corps, and had always considered the objections raised against them as by no means insurmountable. It had been suggested that the services of rifle corps since the peace would no longer be required, but, although no alarmist, he thought that the sooner they were formed the better. Such formations were not the result of a war panic, but were necessary in order that, in case of need, their services might be effective when required. Ile could not agree with those who thought that volunteer rifle corps and a standing army were necessarily antagonistic, for he was sure that the regular troops would not be unwilling to tight side by side of the volunteers. As soon as the corps numbered 800 men, he should be happy to recommend it to be re- ceived by her Majesty. After exhorting them to be careful that the indi- viduals admitted were gentlemen—by which term he included all men from the noblemen to the artisan if they conducted themselves properly—he in- formed them that, although as Lord-Lieutenant of the county, lie had the right of appointing their officers, he should in every ease previously consult the wishes of the corps on the subject. He looked upon their organisation as democratic, but democratic iu the highest and most honourable point of view.

It was subsequently announced by the Mayor that his Grace had offered a silver-mounted rifle to the best marksman next yeas, and had also subscribed fifty guineas.

Several of the counsellors who incurred the displeasure of Mr. Baron Bramwell last week at Bristol for non-attendance to their clients' inte- rests have been "explaining." They state that they made arrangements for those briefs they could not attend to. After publishing the letters of two eminent gentlemen of the bar, the Editor of the Times observes that they "are entitled to have it understood that though they threw over their clients at Bristol, and returned to Exeter, they did not inflict on their clients the gratuitous wrong of taking their briefs with them." . . . " We see no mention in either letter of the return of the fees."

Mr. John B. Karslake, on behalf of Mr. Kingdon and himself [two of the gentlemen alluded to above], writes to the Times on Tuesday, " I beg to state that when our briefs were returned at Bristol, the fees, as a matter of course, were also returned."

Richard Hardy, John Hope, an attorney struck off the rolls, Joseph Berry, and Ruth Berry, were tried on Wednesday last at Liverpool for forging and uttering the will of Ann Dean, at Salford, in April last. The deceased kept a small shop in a cellar at Pendleton, and had amassed considerable property. Finding the cellar did not agree with her, she took lodgings at the house of the prisoner Hardy, who kept a beer-shop, removed thither on the 12th April, and died the same night. The will purported to be made on that day. Luke Hardman, one of the alleged attesting witnesses, turned approver. It appeared that the prisoner, Joseph Berry, first forged a will, and after deceased's death lie was in- troduced to the prisoner Hope as a person who could enable him to act under it. Hope found that will insufficient, and prepared and forged another. The last will was proved, and the prisoner, Joseph Berry, ob- tained deceased's money. The evidence of the accomplice was cor- roborated in several material points. The Judge directed the acquittal of the prisoner Ruth Berry, on the ground that she had acted under the direction of her husband. The Jury found the other prisoners guilty, and they were each sentenced to transportation for fourteen years. Among the papers of the prisoner Hope was found what purported to be an in- dictment against the other prisoners, stating correctly the above facts, which it is presumed he intended to use for the purpose of extorting money from them.

A curious ease of fraud and perjury was tried at Bristol on Saturday, before Mr. Baron Bramwell. Under the direction of the Commissioner -of Bankruptcy, an action was brought against James Howell and wife, by the assignees of Samuel Lewis, a bankrupt, who had earl ied on business in Glamorgan, for the recovery of thirty 5/. notes and 116/. in gold. In April last the bankrupt set up his son, a minor, in business, obtained goods for hint to the amcuut of 20001. or 3000/. ; on lilt 14th of the same month made an assignment for the benefit of his creditors; gave a very unsatisfactory account of his expenditure, and was committed to prison: His wife con- nived at his fraudulent endeavours —" to make a purse for himself; " but, before making "a clean breast of it "—by avowing that she had rollected all the money in the house, about 2001., had put it into a jar maul buried it "in the mountain,"—she did her best to implicate Mrs. Bowen in the fraud. The Lewises and the Howells were on friendly terms. Howell, who was 11 respectable farmer, would do anything for Lewis, " in a fair way," but when he heard of the charge against his own wife, of having Iv- eeived the jar rend abstracted the money from it, he told Ann Lewis—" 1 am afraid you have no good in your mind," and, " I am sure to have law

of you if possible." The Jury found a reidiet dqi //dant ; to which finding the Judge responded—" quite right, gentlemen ; it would leave grieved me to the heart it' you had found the other w:ty, 1 never new a

more honest witness than the deMndant." it may be remarked, through the want of ingenuity in the bankrupt's wiM, to imia!em• her false- hoods pass for truths. an innocent woman escaped the imputa, ion of assist- ing in a very common friendly practice—rarely, however, SO clumsily de- veloped as in this ease—that of assisting bankrupts to make for themselves a private purse.]

Out of the impurity of election, cases of "undue influence" continue to ctop up. At the Liverpool Assizes, on Saturday, Mr. Baron Watson's at- tention was called to the following facts. At the last eleeetion, James Con- stantine, a voter, was intimidated by a process railed " bottling." Constan- tine's political opinions were well known at Bury, he was •' ner Ilarnes,"— the joint Candidate with the Right. Honourable F. Peel. On the nomina- tion morning, Constantine drank with Hardman aml Booth at a "Peel" house ; '' it was dark coloured drink ;" " I got up to go, and they • dawned' me and 'doubled me up,''' and put him into a cab. Hardman kept him down with his knee in his back, knocked out one of his teeth, was very in- quisitive as to his politics, had him conveyed a considerable distance, and was altogether a very rough and unceremonious agent in indicting, for Peers

sake, the species of torture called "bottling." The operation consists, amongst other things, of hal f-sullbeat ion, holding the nose and pouriltg, spirits down the throat, stripping olf slims. gagging, fie. The evidence was lull of discrepancies, and the whole adleir looked very like a drunken frolic, its which complainant was not faultless. But, it transpired that it was not the only ease of 1• bottling" voters at this election. After two hours' de- liberation, Hardman and Booth, two of the three misdemeanants indicted, were found guilty. On Monday they received sentence—Hardman to 12 months, and Bootle to 9 months' imprisonment.

A gang of gipsies, male and female, engaged themselves, on :Holiday evening, in me hot dispute at the Bridge: lim, Ludlow, as to who was the best dam•er. The natural consequence followed--a tight. The landlady re- fused them beer, but her servant surreptitiously supplied them with three quarts. Mot and women joined in the struggle ; and one of the gang, "John Macdennis, a rough looking young fellow, with at huge shock of unkempt hair "—struck. l'earee, the assistant-ostler ::t the Bridge with it brick weighing about IPbs. and killed him. Six of the gem; were arrested and fined 11. cavil. The Coroner's Jury have returned a verdict of wilful murder agalinst 31aedennis, and he has been committed for trial.

Lingard, a publican, butcher, rattle-jobber, and town-councillor, at Ashton-under-Lyme, was sentenced on Tuesday, at the Liverpool .Assizes, to pay 300%. damages for the seduction of Mar)- Eizabeth Leech, a grocer's daughter. She lead a child by Lingard, which lived but an few days, and the mother succumbed in ten days. She was twenty-two yI.V.re of age, I.iii- gard was forty-six. She was of a delicate constitution, and cone•ealed her pregnancy till the eleventh hour.

At the Liverpool .Issizes, on Tuesday, Mary .1nn Gibson, " a pale puny- looking child," fourteen years old, was eh:erg-eel with the murder of John Thompson, a child four-and-a-lialf years old. In the evening at the 21st of July last. Ilibsort took out the baby and little boy of MN. Thompson, to whom she was a servant ; missed the boy ; went back to tell her mistress of the fact ; was sent out again to seek hint ; was :wen earning the child in the direction of a canal, and, later in the evening, Carroll, " a Batman." passing by the eanal, helped her to get out of the water the' (troweled child. The evidence was very. confused. The prisoner appeared to be a kindly and well-disposed girl, and there being tic ease made out against her, slit was 1m:quitted.

At the Newport pm•liee ollice, in Monmouthshire, on Wednesday, a woman was e e, ith walking, about he male attire. She had worn

nautical eosteel,,, r ',•it years, and "appeared to be every inch a sailor."

She had made • " had never nagged at the hardest work on shore

Or 1111011t ; Iced Ilia: .1 illy, and, to support her 1111,1rw,l, who had met with a misfortune, >hc li;k1 shipped from Truro, as eoak and ,tcward. She was discharged.

Matthew FralfriS was hanged at Monmouth, on 'rumobey neerieilig, for cutting leis wife'a throat with a razor. lle di: al penitent, and almost un- conscious of his fate front extreme weakness. Thousands. were present.

Two men, at present, in the lIouse of Corn:ma:ion awaitlog their trial Mr burglary, have been identified as keying been in the field when Richard Broughton, of Rout:ahoy, near Leeds, was murdered ma Satur- day, the 6th instant, a short time before the crime connalitt.qt. One of the men, Reardon, has since hew! reeognized as the person who pawned the watch stele' frown the deceased, which Was plcdg,ed:about two hours after • the iiiurder at a pawnbroker's shop in Leeds.

Whichwood Forest, in the coulee y of Oxford, has been disalibrested. Nearly four thousand acres have been cleared and arranged into no, co MHOS. In

hood, it would be smashed to pieces. As the results of the trial alfected the steel platca, it proved that a steel-clothed ship could be far more easily de- etroyed than a wooden-sided one, and that onethe smashing in of one of the steel plates the destruction of life on the srmed ship's decks, supposing the broken plate to be driven through the ship's side, would be something dreadful to contemplate, from the spread of the splintered material. It is intimated that at 600 yards the iron-plated ship would be safe from single shots, but that a concentrated broadside would probably sink her— armour and all."

• The Duke and Duchess of Marlborough gave a treat, on Tuesday, to about 1200 school children, in the private gardens of Blenheim, the whole of which were thrown open to the public. Not less than 5000 or 6000 people visited the grounds. The Archbishop of Canterbury, the Earl of Abingdon, the Earl and Countess of Galloway, and many lords and ladies, were among the visitors. The fete was brought to a termination about seven o'clock by the children singing the National Anthem.

Several tons of stone scattered into the ricer' at the blowing up of old Rochester Bridge have recently been recovered by the use of Heinke's diving apparatus.

At Exeter, on Wednesday, an excursion train left the St. David's station, near Exeter, for Barnstaple races, at 9.39 a.m. The train consisted of about ten carriages, two of the third class next to the engine being fortu- nately empty. It left the station shortly after the appointed time, and proceeded at a moderato pace towards Cowles, Bridge, about a mile from Exeter. At this spot the Creditou and North Devon lines branch off by a bridge across the river Exo. After passing a few yards over the line above this bridge the engine ran off the line, carrying with it the twe empty -carriages, but, in consequence of the breaking of the coupling iron, leaving the other carriages which contained the excursionists on the line. The engine and carriages in question fell over on their sides upon the embank- ment, and the carriages were shivered in pieces. Beyond a few bruises the passengers in the carriages on the line escaped serious injury. Mr. Mears, the superintendent of the St. David's station, was seriously injured. The telegraphic wires were smashed by the overturning of the engine and raeriages.

There is a scarcity of labourers in the West of England attributed to the low wages—from 9s. to 12s. per week.

The iron chain makers of Worcestershire and South Staffordshire are on strike for an advance of Is. per cwt. on " helf-inch" chains—hitherto paid for at the rate of 4s. per cwt.