28 NOVEMBER 1840, Page 6

PROCEEDINGS OF THE FRENCH CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES.

The draft of the proposed address from the Deputies in answer to the speech from the throne was not laid before the Chamber till Mon- day ; when it was read amidst great confusion. We print it entire, as having been the subject of much remark, and likely to afford matter for an animated debate in the Chamber.

" Sire—We thank your Majesty- for having convoked the Chambers before the ordinary period of their meetieg. It is particularly in important circum- stances, in those which interest the honour and safety of nations, that it be- hoves a constitutional King to surround himself with the representatives of the country, to expose to them the situation of affairs, to take their advice, and Claim their support. " The measures which the Emperor of Austria, the Queen of Great Britain, the King of Prussia, and the Emperor of Russia have taken, in concert with the Ottoman Porte, in order t.1 regulate the relations of the Sultan with the Pasha of Egypt, have excited all our solicitude. France has been deeply moved by this event, and has followed with anxiety all the phases of this great crisis. Prudence required of your Majesty to provide for all contingencies by arma• inents of precantiou ; extraordinary credits 1111VC been opened to meet them, and we fully appreciate their motives and utility. " In this state of things, our support, Sire, is aseured to you. for an honour-

able peruse, as Iva as for a just we A petme without dignity could never be accepted either by France or In her King. .\-7111111just war, a violent aggression, without cause or object, seenlA not he agreeable either to our manners or to our ideas of civilization and prearess. Peace, then, it possilde—an honourable and certain peace, which will leave unimpaired the balance of power in Europe—

such mir first wish. But it in the CO1ll'W of events, it became impossible on those eenditions—if the honour of France required it—if her violated rights— if her territory nuanced —" [The President was here interrupted by an ex- plosion sua murmurs from the Lcu mid Left Centre, and was a long time unable to obtein a hearing. Several apastraphee were addressed to lain which escaped

US on neeettnt of the ti u. -`,1 hen he had at last obtained silence, he turned towaras the Left, and told them that they would be at liberty ta make the ob- jection during the discusam: ; when M. •Taseherati rose and exclaimed, " We cannot too seen protest againet such language." The President having repeated the ssiteaes, his voice was again overpowered ba loud niurnilll'S. He was, how- ever. at I tst allowed to proceed —" or her interests seriously compromised, renderea it imperotive; speak, then, Sire, and :It your voice the French people will ri,e like one man, the country si1l submit to every sacrifice, and the na- tional 'Tort will be asmred to you

" have anxiously de‘sirt the pacification of Spain: Interested in the conscaldation of her constitutionel government, we svould see with deep regret anarchy endangering eat undertaking as courageously prosecuted in the name of Marty.

" France recals again to Europe the rights of Polish nationality, so solemnly stipulated by treaties. (.1/weenes.)

" We approve your alejes 's resolution to eend additional forces to the coast of Buenos Ayres, fml tru,d that We stall at last obtain filen the Government of that c, entry reperetien Mr cur ju,t grievanecs.

" Our arms :in Afriea ;meal diaheeiished itself by brilliant feats of arms. Your sees, who avail themselves of every opportunity' to display their courage, alearea the glory zuld perils of ti -v expeditions, What we demand of your Gov. vr Sire, i-:, to investigate :o,riously the general direr ion of our affairs in ilea (fou:try, hi order that the triumph of Ger arms may not be 8terile, and that a poessssion so glerieusly compered, so dearly purcbesed, may become for France a seuree of strength, and not a eau.e of weakness,.

" The attempt of Ilonbeam a es net old V insane, it wee a criminal one. Re-

pre.ssed from the outset 1, t lv loval:v of the citizens, it 1C/1 condemned by a

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solemn judgment : justice Ind its tree course : the a'ence committed against society did not long remain without a reparation, and the expectations of the factaet were everywhere signally defeated. " shall examine with care the law of the budget. States being over expes..d to undergo unexpected burdens, a severe economy is always necessary. In ether timee, the Chainaer, in the impossibility of reducing the taxes which weird ou the country, had at least recommended the maintenance of a balance between the receipts ana exp:oeliture. Shire, in fact, that balance is broken,

we sledl devise nesam reastahlisaing and preservinea it. " The othsr leas which your Oovernment Intends to pre:sent to us, shall be, on cam part. the object, of mature attention. From this numenit we congra- tulate om,clvei 011 Irving 11,:•:11 al& to reply, by an unaaimous vote, to the demarel med- of us ba. your Majesty, to relieve our departments which have been ra-, 1 ly the scourge of inundation. " :wcord.of the great powers of the state we know is the surest guarantee of pule peace. Order maintained at home by the ens rgetie and persevering action of the Government, is the lust principle of strength uhroad, We express the wish of France when vu declare tuat she firmly desires both. " Confide, Sire, in your star—fa/so/el lauvhhe)---us we confide ourselves in the Fa et nity of Your dynasty. A new am has been born to you ; and the same Pros ',deuce •ehich lately covered you again with its iegis, will continue to proa et France and prescrse her from the evil, of anarchy. " Let your throne, Sire, be always surrounded with enlightened and faithful telvi-er,. Depositorle; 01 your al:U.0.'11.y, they alone tie accountable for its exereaes. On them rests entirely the ga:.rantee of your per; °nal inviolability. Let ti. ro take care, as von ,h,:co, to ;num.:- 10,1,1h; ',dices to real merit ; let prolate be honoured ; be cusp- tot, (1.auel loud, /der.) Let us

support mem:day and the Iowa. Men have 1,run too notelt encouraged to attend

exclusively to their personal interests. Let us endeavour to reanimate in their heart- a d:.-..interested love of COalitrys IN I:11:11 inspires great and o:uncrotts sacri-

fices. Honour and country '—in the:e tee e erste are to be f'ound the seeds of tha ,• civic virtues which conettute the etreagth of' nations and the duration uteri'; i res."

Th:tt part of the addrese in which the alternative of war was proposed seer:: to have 1,...,!-11 (•O71' i emil by the War see lion of' the Chamber as

mak: eg the ea.", /a ilea.e,.1 on the invasion of the French territory

by tl.,; Samos te that effect interrupted the reading of the

addreee--" It ss as deelar :ea that Erence would purchase peace at any price." Three times aid tho Preeldent resume, and as often was he interrizpted aefore the mile:a:sal Deputies would hear hitn. The only passaaes that seemed to give the noisy clamourers fbr war any satisfac- tion, ss ere those in reference to " honour and country," which were re- ceivel with numeram; ehoute of appro%

The discueeion on the address; was eommenced on llamlneaday by Mar-al Soult. Ili, speech wes neerly ta the same effeet us that of M. Guiaat in the:Clean:is :r of Peers.

" laams President of the (anneal et the moment Of the Oriental crisis, he was meded to state the entire mama of the, events : he should speak in sup- port of in and show that FrAte e I, el always been ready to do what was consistent with justice and dignity. The gren t object was to maintain an ho- nouraale p ace. At the period of the OE amt.l crisis, he and his colleagues were perfectly agreed ;13 to th,, veliey to be Mllowed. Every effort had been made for the last eightesm morthe to etep he:sciatica in the East, and to preveat that territory frorn faliiitg meter the protectorate of a single Power, to

Site destruction of the European equilibrium. With that view measures were taken to avoid the disasters of war. In France a great sympathy existed in favour of the Pasha of Egypt ; but it was dependent upon the recognized prin- ciple of the preservation of Constantinople in the hands of the Sultan, as well as the maintenance of the acquired rights of the Pasha. The Ministry of the 12th of May bad a double object—first, to give the Pasha of Egypt the here- ditary possession of Egypt and Syria; and secondly, the maintenance of the Ottoman enquire in its full independence. The alliance between France and. England was consistent with a similar line of policy in the East. But the other Powers of Europe had. different interests in the settlement of that

question An individual proteotorate having been re- jected, it was evident that any proposition of that kind would meet with their decided opposition. With respect to the part taken by England, it was but fair and just to state that Great Britain had from the commencement of the nego- tiations shown every disposition to join with France ; and he was bound to declare, that he firmly believed. that no insult or intention to insult France was contemplated by the former nation or its Government. (Approbation.) It ought not to be forgotten the part taken by England at the period of the Re- volution of July, when she testified her sympathy for France and congratulated the French people on that event. For his part, he remembered the reception he met with in England a few years back; he slid not flatter himself that that reception was a mark of personal favour, as he knew that it was an approbation of the Monarchy of July. It was the duty of France to maintain an honour- able pence, and not rush inconsiderately into war, which would. let loose all disorderly passions. It had always been the policy of France to prevent the occupation of' Constantinople by Russia, and the various Cabinets had acted upon this principle. lie was an old solstice, and was as susceptible as any One upon the point of honour ; and it was not in his old days that he would abandon the honour of France, they neea not fear that. (Applause.) But France, he should repeat, had not been insulted. On the contrary, her concurrence was desired and frequently asked for. She had refused of her own free will. If the sacrifices of war were required, he should not hesitate in claiming them at their hands; but, fortunately, they were not. Having served his country so long in the field, he now hoped to be of service to her as a good. and loyal citizen.

The next speaker was M. Tillers. He went over the same ground as in his speech in the Bureaux respecting the course of negotiations on Eastern affairs; but he made, in addition, some important admissions in favour of England, and threw light upon points which were before obscure— The moment that hostilities limbo out in the East, England had, the first intelligence of that event ; and it was but just to state, that she lost no time in proposing to France to join her fleet to that of England, svith the view of putting a prompt termination to the war in that country, and thus prevent a conflagration which might compromise the peace of Europe. Lord Palmerston proposed to the Cabinet of the 12th of May (the Snit Ministry) to unite the English and French fleets on the coast of Syria, and force both contending parties to lay down their arms, and the Pasha to restore the Turkish fleet. rhe answer ef the French Minister wrist° the effect, that the Government was not quite ready to adopt that propositioa' and that it would be necessary to have further details before it came to that active determination. Unfortu- nately, the above answer of the French Ministry produced a sarious effect upon the English Cabinet, and was the commencement of that coolness which took place between the two Governments. Lord Palmerston, in his reply to the French Minister of Foreign Affairs, described the effect produced by the inde- cision of the French Cidenet as contrary to the reliance upon the constant union between Engaand and France. He again recommended an active inter- ference hy force of arms to compel the Sultan and. the Pasha to lay down their arms, England and France undertaking to arrange the question of territory. M. Tikes aelieved that if this proposition had been adopted, it svould have led to a happy result-, and have prevented the subsequent complication and. diffi- culties of the question. (Approbation.)

Haying recapitulated the different steps which were afterwards taken in the attempt to reconcile the views of all the European Cabinets on the Eastern question, M. Thiers accused England of want of' faith, ana with having proposed the most humiliating conditions to France, when M. Guizot succeeded M. Sebastiani as Ambassador in London-

" As soot as the other three PlAVern sass' that they were stroll., enough to treat France with indifference, they forthwith coincided with LorePalmerston; and, although it had been stated by somepersons who were behind the scenes, 11155 the Ministers of Prussia and Austria had promised to endeavour to per- suede Lord Palmerston to accede Syria fbr life to Mehemet Ali, yet they did not succeed, for this proposal was never made to us. I trust that M. Guizot will appreciate what I have just stated, and not throw on my shoulders the blame of this affair—Oast Ile will not lay bare our divisions betare all Europe. 1 have reason to dread hie rechunations; but I trust that he make none, as he must confess that he approved of nearly all our measures. 1 have been accused (if having negotiated a direct arrangement with the Pasha of Egypt ; and I Vaal: it would have been to the advantage of all parties. It was the most natural solution. But this I uever sought." M. Thiers read several despatches from M. Pontois, fisnn which it resulted that lie luta recommended. the French Ambassador to take no part in a direct arrangement. In refer- ring to the reproaches which had been levelled at him for having, by his Llind allusimis, precluded the possibility of any arrangement, M. Tillers read Boswell despatches from M. Guizot, who declared that the Cabinets were all at loggerheads, and that he had every reason to hope that Syria, as an heirdom, or at least file life, might he obtained. It was true that, after the arrival of the Turkish envoy as London, M. Guizot had written that the Councils had been resumed with flesh vigour and that if the Pasha did not accept Syria for ii di, he would in all probability lose all. ' 1 think,' continued M. Tikes, 'that it was dangerous to abandon the heirdom of Syria at once, without having ob- tained any engngement from Lord Palmerston with regard to the life possession of Syria. I wade thus to M. Guizot—a alaae no definitive engagements. 1 have despatched an envoy to the Viceroy in order to sound him. If they insist on a decision, answer them ad referendama (11Iarmurs.) This leas 110t a refusal. (lawsh murmurs.) The V ieemy was overjoyed at the offer, and threw himself' into the arms of M. Coehelet. lie told him that far the life-posseasion sit' Syria Ile would give up the fleet and would stbtiuit. Thia is what was called at London an effort of France to bring about a direct arrangement. (Mainers) seet al. Punier to the Pasha, riot to contain him in his determination to give up the fleet, but to inform !din that if he once gave ltis promise to do so, he Must keep his word. (Fresh murmurs.) II feel m116111441 Ilea this step was not the cause of the treaty of .1 uly. ( alarrears.) It might Imve caused some umbrage at London • but when M. Grazot nffirmed there that France had not attempted to In•ing iLlit an arrangement, he ought 10 hare been &lama (near, hear l) Ile ought to have been believed, not oily on accouht or his high cha- racter, but also as the organ of the Government. There has been no intrigue or manieuvre. But France has been grossly Aped ; a pretext has beets sought and fbund to break off her ulliance. A treaty was made without her know- ledge and consent. I do not accuse the Euglish people ; I do not accuse the English Cabinet ; but I du accuse one man, and that man is Lord Palmerston."

The discussion was proceeding ashen the Wednesday's reports left Paris.