31 AUGUST 1839, Page 3

Debates nab Vrotrebings in Valiamcnt.

EDUCATION. EDUCATION.

In the 1-louse of Lords on Monday, Lord BnotTcttAm moved for

.'n.vers..y and or the University copies of the charters of ;he London h

ollege ; and proceeded to direct the attention of the House to the int- C

portanee of making provision for the liberal, sound, moral, and religious education of the people To attain this object, he had brought before their Lordships, as he had brought liefore the other House of Parliament, session after session, measures which appeared to him, and to those whom he consulted upon this :subject, the best calculated to iambi the end which they lout in view. If he had now come to the resolution of no longer taking the same course, it was only because he felt that by bringing ihrward tlie subject ti lie after time, he kept, as it were, ex. dusive possession of it, and prevented its being taken up by others, who, from their position and from the circumstances of their having greater yeight with the community- than he could pretend to possess, would te Inure likely to insure Success. For this reason, lie had come to the resolution, not of albandoning thissubject—God liwbid that he should eVCV ilhall(1011 it—it was interwoven with Lis heart, it was entwined with his very 112 (1111 ; he could not, any more than durst if he could, abandon it—but he had come to the reset what of giving up the subject to his noble friend at the head of the Government ; being con- vinced that ni substituting his noble friend for himself, he was rendering the best service that he could-to the object which they 'oath had in viow. lie hoped bis noble friend would lipply to it his vigorous and manly understanding, and give it the benefit of all the resources which he would derive Bann his situation, And from the assistance of those who supported hini in that House. " Let my noble friend prepare a bill founded ou right priuciples and propounded in an enlightened and liberal spirit, it is needless to say with what cordial affection I shall greet his entering on such a course, :lad how my ancient attachment hi bhn which has never been zdtered—(Ibre ,zabie «out teuentril loyd. Inumm.• derp'tyafeeted, tazz/ was zezz.z7,1,, to proc,,,brze a llama, or irig revive in my bo,,on, and will make me hail with joy his hiking that lout which his duty prescribes to him, but ivlihhi his iittel',.St aS a 31illiSter OUg■It to induce him to take, as the certain iiioutis, if not of carrying this great meitsure, Ther, of encircling his Government with a glory neVer fade." ii Snother inference to be drawn from the debate, to which he had referred—an inference by no means so satistactory as the former. However desirable it might he to see established a plan of national education, in which the Church of England should have no praminence, that debate had proved that such a plan was utterly impracticable. Rightly or wrongly—for that was quite another question—our whole system of civil and ecclesiastical polity glove, de jure as Well as de ludo, a preference to the Established Cliareh. Oa this principle he had proceeded in 1819 and in 1820, when he recognized the predominance of the Church of England, by proposing to give to the parish priest a veto upon the appointment of schoolnut.sters. Dissenters met Into in consultation upon the question: they candidly told him their objections, soundly propounded their principles, and consistently urged their claims. Among all those whom he had met he had made but one convert : that convert was worthy, not only of all acceptance, but or all love, of all reverence, of all veneration, in the eyes of every one of his pupils, of his fleck, nay, of Ids fellow-countrymen—he meant the Reverend Dr. Lindsay, who expressed himself to Idol (Lord Broughain) in these words—" My friend, I hate Episcopacy, and I detest Papacy ; but rather than the children of the people in this country should be lost here and perilled hereafter by remaining- in ignorance, I woulul. suffer them to be taught by the Pope of Rome himself:" These were the last words uttered by that venerable man on the subject ; for Ile died suddenly the very next day, leaving to his friends thii5 strong,. memorial of his good sense, Ids liberality, and his uni- versal philanthropy. The difficulties which stood in the way of a system of national education arose from a feeling which it was mortifying and humbling to think upon, butavhiell prevailed equally among Churchmen and Dissenters. Churchmen had done much for the cause of education, and Dissenters had done much for the cause of education—both prized it highly, respected it deeply, and loVed it dearly ; but, yet such was human frailty—such was the weakness of our imperfect nature, even when we were seeking the hest objects Ind were animated by the purest and holiest feelings—that there was one thing which both Dissenters and Churchmen prized still more highly, and whicri they toyed still more dearly, and that was—victory. Churchmen desired to see the people instructed, but they desired still more to keep down the Dis- inters. 'The Dissenters wished for national education, but wished a little more to pull down the Established Church. It was owing to the existence of these feelings that the interests of education appeared to have Ellen hopelessly Prostrate. But there was still hope if the Government would introduce a measure founded upon Catholic principles. He was ready to take his share of the unpopularity which \mild arise front giving a predominance to the Esta- blished Church in a system of national education ; and, what was still more important, those with whom he acted on this question, and who had much There influence than himself, were ready to take their share of that unpopu- larity. Ile was ready to allow Ids noble friend at the heal of the Government to take to himself all the glory of the enterprise, which lie would be content to share as an humble' follower in the triumph which his noble friend would achieve.

Motion agreed to. NEW Warrs.

In the House of Commons, Mr. E. J. STANLEY moved that a new writ be issued for Cambridge, in the room of Mr. Spring Rice, who had accepted the Cltiltern Hundreds.

bir. DISRAELI said be would take the opportunity of calling for Some explanation of time principles on Which the Cabinet was to be recoil- structed— Be ecrtamly thd think, in the present state of the finances of the country, some statement should be made by the new Chancellue of the Exchequer. (zt voice .from the Trmtsury heurh—" He has no scat; um new writ has been seoiooe(Ifiir Portsmouth." A laugh.) Well then, as the principle of the re- nt Government seemed to be that the official underlings should be the materials of reeruititor the Cabinet, perhaps the Secretary tor the Treasury lihnself, who ta,!, no doubt to he the next Chancellor of the Exchequer, woull have no %acuity in furnishing the information required as to the principles on which the Cabinet %ca., to be reconstructed. If no stabement were male, lie shoulul feel himself called on to resist this motion.

Mr. E. .J. S't.sxmiv aSSIll'ed Mr. l) Israeli, limo not yet having a seat in the t'abinet, it was inii)ossible f him to make any saelt statement. .3Iotion agreed. to.

3Ir. STA N i.rv that moved that a new weit lw issuel for Waterford, in the room of :%Ir. Niryse, who had accepted the cbtL'e oi' a Lord of the Treasury.

D'Isn.‘ ELF said, ilia t as zi ;lister @zir Ju,htra IIobliouse) was now present, he wk.tt!..i I:op:a, his form coiL.stion.

Sir Joux I lormot-sE u miii lie was ll,/t of ilia intelitioo of 'Ali-miters generally to meet their constitueibs. c NV:tS l ii IvuCt■twarc of \chat pri arrangements the lionoitrabb, ;bed!, himself iniglit have macle for niectiog the eleetrirs of a, lie linew, the Government lead no i nen! ion of' r,.,t,'...11Hr or of changing that course of tdmCY w 'doh tlioy in ,•1 ()II TIR'Sliy, TlyW mails were ortlen.,1 for Tippert-..v, in the room or Arr. Sind!, appointed ti.. ad for Manchester, in the room of :kir. Pottlett 1.,ti.oirite,..1 Governor - General of 'amnia.

TICE I'Itoitoo.vrox.

'Ii mu se n In steretl hue TIose ssio ( TtteSd m n of Lords ;tt (pu,tr;er past two. Her v•-.ts attended by the 1./ateil ut u h...rland and I.atly lvi-:!. wore under her

robes U tires,: of white and gold. It vv.,: !.. • :Iewhat 1•1wer than

usual, out elree: illy displayed her :11ajes..., 'Cite oriminents xvorn were a stoniztellie..attl ear-rings of (Roma-bi-. a eta pearl iteel, lace. Item' 3Iajesty seemed in exeelh•nt health and s],i 'file 'commrt, 01'i..S111111110110-1, and a • I it'll the Spealier. Mr. I,Ert:v pr. present.at a Supply Bill, and 11,••■••• icul uihuiuVjiOI speech. ".M0,1 1.;;.leious yonr Alaje-zy Liz ,st rah. tif•al u',minions of Great Ifiululul iuui inland, attend your 'Majesty vitim ii, 1, t Bill of Supply for the serviee or the ',resent yezir. Arai-huts and import:1'd ,nea,iires have

occupicet our attention during. ui protraet•ed and humhuiuumuuuu uum mmuuh none more importalit and more ziliecting the intercsts of the eoilcoullity than those

which 11,1,-, ro. 11,4 nu, prev,otion of crime. We have

given the most careful euiuiihu ration to all th iniproveinseits libich have

heeil sltzeiade.1 to zzslv I,Nisl11.11,0,1111(1, tater ill It1011 smith respect tO the Nletropoliimi and City Police, enlargingIi. 1uui. and :weurately de- linlog the duty of the three, have endeavoured t i ;:ive i 'creased seeurity to thupr„le.,.ty uil tit*, uumo1muuhi,. mu blood in mu. • •,r,•.• ilo liberties of the ,u1deel.. :nem Ii I the iminagenred f his,•:idinc, of our prisons, as a., 11 in England o iii Semi :eel, ba. Canted mu.s of our niost anxiotts mLhii.r if tV1 mum uaelaavoure,1 to make suet, utiumi 0.1 will render polish:mot effectual ; whilst, on tbe other.cu hive t1d dune reearzl to the ivellitre of INV IrriS411101'S, ;1111t tu thcir loor;t1 1111111'0VVIllellt. The attempts which have been mule in many part, of lie country to excite dis- affeetiou, zweolopaiiied by• riot, and in some h. a Awes by the destruction of property, levee rendered it in imperative duty ou us to al ,pt sn••11 measures as

shall prevent a reem•rence or shoo., dist mmmlvi u IV, hove accordingly pro-

vided. tin your Alajesty the means of inereu• iu our :Nlaj,..,ty's military force, and to strengthen the civil authority, by enabling the 'Al.igistrates of Floglauil and Wales to organize a paid constabulary ti.ree, where the state of the counties shall rcquire it 1Ve have the ,,e!,faet ion of auiloaneing to your :Majesty-, that alillou,b1 the circumstances (if the country have not en- abled ILS ti malce tity material reduction in ;bu . pablie horde:is, yet we have endeavoured to alleviate their pressure, by making a must im- portant modification in that branch of the revenue whielt is derivable from the Post-office: by reducing the duty H a low and unithrin rate, we not only give encouragement to the ilidos:ry mid develop the resources of the community, hunt we have conferred social i u intageS P'e highest cha- racter upon the poorer classes of your I I uj iu1- subjects. We have given our willing aid in furtherance of your "Majr,,t■'.; WIS11,..S lii uhuuhiha the Slave-trade, by protect lug front legal proce,olliats the Idlieers emphiyed under your 31aje:ty's orden: for the suppre,,,ion of that 1i -carious traffic. \Ve earnestly hope that it iiety be reservol I; ii ■ our :NI lje..,ty t,I perfect the groat design which, originated with your !lajcglys Reci predece,,,,r in the purest spirit of belie- volowe, and that the final re,ults may shed a le.1,.:1:t and enduring 11LMTC On your Majesty's most auspicious reign. If 1101V on■y 11.11111111S f,11.1111. to present" to your :\ lajesty t wo tills, she one int ititled \ n .1et to Appropriate the Sur- plus Ways awl Afealis thr the servo of tin..\ cio. 1,19: :ma the other intituled An Act for raising the sum of 12,1t2f,,050/. for the ,ervive or the year 1839;' to which, with all humility, we pray your llajesty's Royal assent."

The Royal assent was given to the bill pves,mtell by the Speaker, and to several others.

The Lam) C11.1NcEr,Lort, kneeling, then hundel to the Queen the fol- loNving speech ; 'which her Majesty read in a sweet and distinet tone- '' My Lords and Cr entlenien—The public business !laving been hroug,ht to a close, I have now to perffirni the sat isliwtory duty of releasing you front your long and laborious at tembince in Parliament.

"I rejoice that a definitive treaty bet ween Ii uhhum ui and Belgium, negotiated by the mediation of the Five Powers, has settle,' the differences between these two countries, and lats seen red the peace of Europa from dangers to which it had so long been exposed.

" same coneord cc ill brought these hit iii. questiims to a peaceful

termination prevail, with regard to the The Five Powers are :dike determined to mu phil the imlepaubenee and integrity of the Ottoman empire ; and I tried- that this union will iiisure a satisfactory settle- ment of matters which are of the deepest import ii co to the whole of Europe. " It has affiaaleil me the sincerest pleasure to hive ho.•11 able to assist in effecting a reconciliation between France and 'ii ii,. !mem upon preservirw for my subjects the ble—ings of peace, I am 1110,1.- gratitieb when T can avail myself of rot opportuility of removing inis.tuders".inilings between other powers.

'. 1 hare recently concluded with the Kineg or th, Fueuuehu o convention cal- culated to put an end to differences which let ve arisen of it years between the fishermen of Great Britain and of France. This eon ventiell, by removing cattses of dispute, Will tend to cement that union between the two c-aintries which is so advantageous to both, antl so conducive to the general int:rests of Europe. " I shall continue to pursue with perseveralwe the negotiathms in which I ant engaged to persuade all the Powers of Chri,tendont to 'mite in a general league for the entire extinction of the Slave-trade; and I trust that, with the blessing of Providence, mv efforts hi so righteoits vans,' will he rewarded with success.

" I regret that the differences Nehich led to the v.at lily:mai of my 'Minister from the (boort of Tehran have not yet been satisfactorily adjusted by the Go • vernment of Persia.

" Its order to fulfil the engagements announced to 3 on at the opettiug of the present session, the Governor-General of India has moved an army across the Indus; and I have much satisfaction in being able to inform you that the ad- vance of that expedition has been hitherto unopposed, and there is every reason to hope that the important objects for which these military operations have been undertaken will be finally obtained. " I have observed with much approbation the attention which you have be- stowed upon the iuternal state and condition of the country. I entirely concur the measures which you have framed for the preservation of order, the re- pression of crime, and the better administration ofjustice in this metropolis ; and I have given a cordial assent to the bills which yea have presented to me the establishment of a more efficient Constabulary force in those towns which peculiarly required it, and for effecting the important object of generally extending, and Invigorating the civil power throughout the country.

"Gentlemen of the House of Commons—I thank you for the zeal and readi- MSS with which yon have voted the Supplies for the service of the year.

" It has been with satisfaction that I have given my consent to a reduction of the Postage-duties. I trust that the net which has passed on this subject will be a relief and encouragement to trade, and that by facilitating inter- course and correspondence it will be productive of much social advantage and improvemeut. I have given directions that the preliminary steps should be taken to give effect to the intention of Parliament as soon as the inquiries and arrangements required tbr this purpose shall have been completed.

" The advantageous terms upon which a considerable amount of the Un- funded Debt has been converted into Stock, afford a satistiwtory proof of the reliance placed on the credit mut resources of the country, as well as on your determination to preserve inviolate the national faith.

"My Lords and Gentlemen—It is with great pain that I have found myself compelled to enforce the law against those who no longer concealed their de- sign of resisting by force the lawful authorities, and of subverting the institu- tions of the country. The solemn proceedings of courts of justice, and the fearless administration of the law by all who are engaged in that duty, have checked the first attempts at insuhordination ; and I rely securely upon the good sense of my people, and upon their attachment to the constitution, for the maintenance of law and order, ivhich are as necessary for the protection of the poor as for the welfitre of the wealthier classes of the community."

The Loam CHANCELLOR declared that the Parliament was prorogued to Thursday the 24th of October.

Her Majesty then left the House. The Commons retired to their Own chamber ; where the SecAcna read a copy of the Royal Speech, and announced the prorogation.

So the session was closed.