31 OCTOBER 1885, Page 2

Lord Rosebery's speech at Wrexham on Monday was in the-

main an argument against abolishing the House of Lords,-and in favour of reforming it, and we have dealt with it below; but he said. some other notable things, too. He is utterly' against breaking up the English Liberal Party, "the greatest- instrument for good which exists in the world at this moment," and strongly deprecates "too- many leaders." That is the-only- thing that is worse than having no leader at all. He maintained that the party had a leader—Mr. Gladstone—'- and very significantly called back the party to discipline: Then he made a remark about the Church in Wales which; as reported in the Times, is not a little curious. He said :—" Yon may say that your resolution in favour of religious equality and

the Disestablishment of the Church is a measure of abolition. It is no measure of abolition ; you only wish to remove the Church, where it is not the Church of the people, from the position of unjust domination. The Church, so far as it is con- terned, will be as strong as ever as regards its spiritual func- tions after it is disestablished ; it will only have lost the adven- titious advantages which, where it is in a minority, it has no right to have." Does that mean that the Church in Wales --where it is, no doubt, in a great minority—is to be separately disestablished ? We thought the idea of treating the Princi- pality as a separate State had been given up for some ages.