6 DECEMBER 1986, Page 15

FREE SPEECH

Civil Service (Briefing) Monday, 24 November

Brian Sedgemore (Hackney South and Shoreditch): On a point of order, Mr Speaker. This concerns the use of a room within this building. I have been making enquiries and I find that there is a room in the Turret which does not exist, in which are held meetings that do not take place. Speaking about the activities that go on in that room, Sir Robert Armstrong said in the Austra- lian court today: 'The people who are there seek to influence opinion without accepting responsibility and seek to place in the public domain ideas which Government wish not to be seen to be putting there.'

My point of order is this. Bearing in mind that the Prime Minister said on Thursday that it would be inappropriate to discuss certain matters here, but then instructed a civil servant to discuss those matters in the room upstairs, at the meeting that did not take place, is it not time that you, Mr Speaker, ruled the lobby out of order?