Fthatto nutt rurttitingo in Vartiamtut.
PRINCIPAL BUSINESS OP THE WEEK.
ROUSE or LORDS. Monday, July 11. Austrians in Bosnia ; Question and Answer -Convicted Prisoners Removal and Confinement Bill, read a second time-Savings- Banks Annuities Bill, committed.
Tuesday, July 12. Russia and Turkey ; Question and Answer-Juvenile Mendi- cancy (No. 2) Bill, committed-Convicted Prisoners Removal and Confinement Bill, committed-Savings-Banks Annuities Bill, passed. Thursday. July 14. Criminal Law Digest, to be postponed till next session- Church- Building Acts Amendment Bill, withdrawn-Juvenile Mendicancy (No. 2) Bill, reported as amended-Convicted Prisoners Removal and Confinement Bill, passed. Friday, July 15. The Indian Army ; Lord Ellenborough's Speech-Polling at Elections Amendment Bill, withdrawn-Juvenile Mendicancy (No. 2) Bill, passed- Law of Evidence ; Lord Brougham's Complaint. House Or COMMONS. Monday, July 11. Landlord and Tenant (Ireland) Bill, in Committee-Russia and Turkey; Question and Answer-Government of India Bill, in Committee-Suppression of Betting-houses Bill ; leave given to the Attorney- General-Stamp-duties (No. 1) Bill. passed. Tuesday. July 12. Merchant Shipping Bill, in Committee-Malt-tax ; Mr. Ball's Motion-Pauper Medical Relief; Conversation-. Count out." Wednesday, July 13. County Rates and Expenditure Bill, withdrawn-Probate of Wills Bill, withdrawn-Simony Law Amendment Bill, withdrawn-Juvenile Offenders Bill, read a first time.
Thursday, July 14. Manchester and Salford Education Bill, withdrawn-tfniver- sides of Scotland Bill, read a second time-Russia and Turkey ; Question and Answer-Succession-Duty Bill, reported-India Bill, in Committee-Encumbered Estates (Ireland) Act Continuance Bill, read a second time-Newspaper Law Bill, read a second time.
Friday, July 15. Merchant Shipping Bill, committed-Six-mile Bridge; Mr. Miles's Motion-Government of India Bill, in Committee-Entry of Seamen Bill, read a second time-Naval Coast Volunteers Bill, read a second time-Courts of Com- mon Law (Ireland) Bill, passed-Elections Bill, passed.
TIME-TABLE.
The Lord,. The Commons.
Hour of Hour of Hour of Hour of
Meeting. Adjournment. Meeting. Adjournment, Monday Oh . . 8h 13m Monday 4h Om Gh .(m) 1ti 45m
Tuesday' 519 . 7h 35ra Tuesday Noon .... 9h Om 6h .... 8h 45m
Wednesday No sitting. Wednesday Noon .... 2h Om
Thursday 5h 7h 45m Thursday Noon ... 3h 30m .(s);) 2h Om
Friday 5h .. 811 15m Friday Noon *
. 411 Om
65, .*) 211 15m
Sittings this Week, 4; Time.11h 50m. I Sittings this Week, 9; Time,42h 15m
this Session, 100; - 238h 46m — this Session, 138; - 931h 3m RUSSIA AND TURXEY.
Ministers have been interrogated in both Houses respecting the Turkish
question and the Russian notes.
In the House of Peers' on Monday, the Earl of MALMESBFRX inquired whether the Government had received any account of the occupation of
ke
Bosnia by Austrian troops ; and if so, upon what plea that step had been
tan ?
The Earl of ABERDEEN answered, that he had received no information of the kind.
A few minutes after wails, the Earl of DERBY put the same question ;
and Lord Aintanstbr said- .
" So far as any direct communication is concerned, I have not received any information of the remotest kind or sort alluded to, or at any time. I have seen it quoted in various newspapers ; but my noble friend the Secre- tary of State for Foreign Affairs has not received any such information."
On the same evening in the House of Commons, in reply to Mr. Drs- RAS.LI, Lord JOHN RUSSELL said-
" We have not received any information of that nature. Indeed, the Aus- trian Minister has communicated to the Earl of Clarendon his total disbelief of any such occurrence. He says that he believes the report has been owing to the occupation of Peterwardem, a town within the Austrian territory; and he supposes that that step has given rise to the report."
Mr. Disrunti put a further question to Lord John Russell-
"It refers to a document which has reached this metropolis today, and which bears the title of a circular despatch,' addressed to the diplomatic agents of the Court of St. Petersburg, and purports to be signed by Count Nesselrode. This document states that the occupation of the Danubian Principalities by the Russian army has been occasioned as much by the naval occupation of the Turkish ports by the combined fleets of England and France as by the refusal of the Sultan to give that satisfaction to the Emperor of Russia which he demands ; and it further states, that the Emperor will not retire from the Principalities until complete satisfaction has been accorded to him by the Sultan, and until the combined fleets of England and France have left those ports in the Sultan's dominions which they at present occupy. I wish to know whether a copy of this circular despatch has been presented to her Majesty's Government ; and if it has not been presented, I wish to know whether, in the opinion of her Majesty's Government, it is an authentic document ? "
Lord JOHN RUSSELL replied- " In the last despatch received, Sir George Hamilton Seymour stated that he had not seen the circular despatch said to be signed by Count Nesselrode. I have no doubt, however, that, substantially, the despatch to which the right honourable gentleman has alluded, and which has been published in the public journals, is authentic. I will not enter into the particulars to which the right honourable gentleman has referred ; but I do not think, in the first place, that her Majesty's Government can in any manner substan- tiate the fact that the entry of the Russian troops into the Principalities was caused by the sailing of the English and French fleets into the ports of Turkey ; and, in the second place, I do not know, from my reading of thedocument, that there was any declaration in it to the effect that matters
would not be arranged between Russia and Turkey unless the English and French fleets first left the Turkish ports."
In the House of Peers, on Tuesday, Lord Lincnnussr was the interro- gator, and the following colloquy ensued. Lord Lmantunsr—" I beg to put a question to my noble friend with re- gard to the document issued from Peterhoff,. to which I referred the other
night. I understand that document was onginally written in the Russian language ; but a translation into French, which has appeared in the public papers, deviates in a considerable degree from the onginal, particularly in respect to some important epithets. I wish to know from my noble friend, whether he has a copy of the original doeument in the Russian tongue ; and, if so, whether he has any objection to lay it upon the table of the House. I also wish to call the attention of my noble friend to' some expressions I made use of with respect to the circular signed by Count Nesselrode and which has. been made the subject of much criticism. I beg to state, and I am sure my noble friend will bear me out, that the answer to that document by the Min-
ister of Foreign Affairs of France has completely, both in argument and Aid, borne out the conclusions to which I came. (Loud cheers.) I beg farther
to state, that as far as relates to the document from St. Petersburg-the cir- cular document published yestenlay-I think I may safely leave that with- out comment; but I beg leave to call my noble friend's attention to a particular passage in it. I understand, according to my interpretation of that passage, that the Court of Russia has taken on itself to state, that until the Ottoman Porte has satisfied the Court of Russia in respect of demands made against it and until we have withdrawn our fleet from the Turkish waters, it will not abandon the possession of the Danubian Principalities. I understand a noble Lord in another place has stated that he does not put that interpreta- tion upon that document. I have read that document with some attention, and I cannot put any other interpretation upon it than that which I have. I wish to know from my noble friend whether he concurs with me in that interpretation of the passage to which I have referred ? "
The Earl of CLARENDON-" In reply to the first question of my noble and learned friend, I have to say that I believe there are some differences
between the Russian document issued for home consumption-for the use of the Russian people-and the translation sent abroad. I believe more particu- larly in reference to the word perfidious,' as applied to the violation of the Sultan's word. I believe there is a Russian original in the Foreign Office ; which, if it will be any satisfaction to my noble and learned friend to peruse, I have no objection to lay upon the table. I can only say that I entirely agree with my noble and learned friend as to the great ability and skill of the note which. the French Government issued in answer to the first circular of Count Nesselrode • and, in respect to the third question of my noble and learned friend, I think that, when my noble friend Lord John Russell answer- ed that question in the House of Commons yesterday, be had not had an op- portunity of reading the note. I do not entirely take the same view as my noble and learned friend appears to do of what is said in that note ; but I certainly can have no hesitation in saying, that we do not consider that the presence of the British and French fleets in Besika Bay is at all similar or can be compared in any way to the occupation of the Principalities ; and certainly no condition of the departure of the one will be made to procure the evacuation of the other."
Lord LYNDHURST-" The expressions I made use of, and the inter- pretation I put upon that document, amount to this, that it says, so soon as the Ottoman Porte does what we require, and so soon as the English fleet quits the Turkish waters, then we will withdraw: It does not say absolutely not sooner, but it implies that." ' •
The Earl of CLARENDON-" I think the answer I gave to my noble and learned friend does exactly meet that point. We shall make no condition of
that sort." . .
Earl FITZWILLIAM-" I beg to observe, the expression used is a great deal.
stronger than the noble and learned Lord has stated. The expression is not' from the Turkish waters, but 'from within sight of the Turkish capital.' Undoubtedly, the first expression might mean what:we cell the 2Egean Sea ; but from within sight of the Turkish capital' mist mean the Sea of Mar- morn; and the English and French Governments are thus charged with having sent their fleets into the Sultan's dominions."
Earl FrrzwiLtiAst here put a queition relating to the alleged Austrian occupation of Bosnia ; and Lord Ctanns-non gave the same ex-planation as that given by Lord John Russell, :But before the reply, Lord LYNDHURST said-" I beg to apologize for zicit raising been strong enough in the Tepre-
sentation of the passage to 'alluded; but the noble Earl has fallen into the same error. The words are, ' so soon ae the British fleet shall -re-
move from within sight of Constantinople, we shall eetire.'" - The Earl of Cr.a.assnom—" Both my noble friends have used eipressions sufficiently strong ; but as they have both 'quoted from a statement which its incorrect, ncorrect, there can be little importance in considering how strong their assertions may be respecting it.. The English and French fleets am neither within sight of Constantinople nor in the Turkish waters ; and,- al- though it may be asserted in the Russian tote, there is no reason to take any precautions on that subjeet."
On Thursday, Mr. Disaaind asked Lard John Russell to fix a day for
Mr. Layard to bring on his motion; as a reason his own assump- tion that negotiation is now at a ead look. In doing so, Mr. Dieradi recapitulated his If anday's speech, and pointed out " the slight mistake" made by Lord John Russell in the interpretation of the circular of Count Nesselrode.
Lord Jon ar Russrar. said, that, he had at that time only read the eireu- lar in a cursory manner, and hed not -mastered its contents, "I therefore answered, that, in my opinion, the right honourable gentle- man had not put a correct-interpretation on thatpart of the document which said that the Russian troops would be removed from the Principalities when the pressure caused by the 'present* of the combined fleets in the Turkish waters should be taken off: I said, I did not believe -Russia intended to make that the condition of the evacuation of the Principalities. 'I did so not only because I hid not perceive that the proposition was quite distinctly laid down, but also because I did not think it possible that two things so to- tally unlike and dissimilar in character- could be compared with each other, or that the Russian Government could conceive itself justified in demanding that the English and Frencli theta should leave the Turkish waters before its troops should evacuate the Pringipalities. I entertained this opinion be- cause the English and French fleets were in the waters of an allied Power— were there not for the purpose of putting any pressure on that Power—not for the purpose of injuring it in any way, but only in order that they might be ready in case of need, in case that Power sliould 'feel obliged to call for their assistance, and in ease of the invasion of its territories. Another reason why I held that opinion was this, that the occupation of the Princi- palities by the Russian troops is an act which bears no similiarity to the action of the combined -fleets ; and therefore Insturally supposed that a per- son of the experience and sagacity of Count Nesselrode would not have affixed his signature to a document declaring to all the world that the Russian Government-made the removal of the combined fleets the condition of its evacuation Of the Principalities. That is my explanation of the answer *Inch I gave to the right honourable gentleman : but at the same time, I Must now admit that the words of the circular 'despatch bear on the face of them the interpretation which the right honourable gentleman put on them. "With respect to the question which the righthonourable gentleman has just asked me, I have to state that he is mistaken branpposing.the negotia- tions on this subject have come to ti,dead lock. On the contrary, both the English and the French Governments have considered that there aro pro- positions which might be acceded to both by Russia and Turkey which would be the means of obtaining a. pacific solution of these unfortunate'differenees. Whether or not these hopes. will be justified, we cannot know immediately. Some time must elapse before we can learn from St. Petersburg what is the view taken by the Russian Government of any mode of settlement which either England, or France, or Austria may arrive at ; and while matters are in this state of negotiation, I think it is not desirable that discussion should take place."
THE INDIA BILL.
Some further progress was made in Cotnmittee on Monday.
On clause 3, Mr. VERNON Stems proposed an amendment; which would substitute for the nonfitiation of six Directors by the Crown, their election- by the Court of Ditecters, subject to the approbation of the Crown.
The amendment Wes argued at 'great length,. and supported by Mr. Ifinunrs, Yr. Cemmuses Banes, MT. ELLIOT, and Mr. MANGilid: • The-Government propositiomitwas argued, will not obviate the difficulty' of placing able men in the Court of Directors. Men who will not undergo the ordeal of the canvass will not consent to be mere nominees of the Govern- ment and those who accept the office will be persons who have got a seat in the House of Commons and who,hate represented their claims at the Treasury. The nominee system hasattraoted much. odium in the Colonies ; and although the cases are not quite arialogoes„ yet both-are objectionable.. It will be at-- , Most impossible for • the Crown nominees and the :elected Directors to work fiarnionieusly together ; the supposition that they will is inconsistent with common sense: The nominees will not be ; they will not, per- haps, be the tools, but they will be the fast allies of the Governmmt, and thus strengthen the Board of Control. In fact, the clause' provides for the President a covert Way of obtaining possession of the patronage. In 1871 the Crown will absorb allthe)poWers .In India; but in the mean time it is essential that the character-and-influence of the Court of Directors shall be maintained as high as possible. The Government plan Will put'an end to the distinguishing characteristic of the Court. of Directors—that of being a nen-political, body ; and give, besides, an objectionable power to the Minister, by -making the nominees hold their offices at his will and pleasure. On the other hand, Sir Cuanzes Woon, Mr. Lows, and Sit Jastei GRAHAIR supported the clause. It is now agreed that the double government shall be maintaioed, and a Certain number of persons be introduced into 'the. Court he Directors, not elected by -the proprietors. How elaould that be ,doue ?I Government kayo maturely considered the proposition made by Mr. ternin Smith, and have iejetted it ; believing their own plan best calculated to insure the inde- pendence atidieffieieney of the Court of 'Directors. If the Directors elected themselves, they might select partisans, -and the -veto of the Crown would be insufficient to remedy the evil; in fact, it 'Weeld only interrupt the cor- diality between the Directors and the Government. • A-Minister whb should select for office persons who :vz,oulti coma down to make a House would hs; guilty of a shameful bretteli of tettetz The salaries assigned to the Directors are not suffieient to attract persona not in independent eneunastanoss ; nor is it intended as an attraction but merely an indemnification of expenses. Go- vernment Will have an interest in aampointing the best men it can find—such as a Mountstewart Elplaristone=and not peraens, dependent on the Cro-n. The amendment would reumve all responsibifffrfrOM the President of the Baird of ,Contrcilir• arid ldeiafory' indent. the Crown virtually 'la-
minated the DireetorS: to stattite;' the Governor-General, the
fourth member if the Ingislative,Couneil,,atid the "Governors of subordinate Presidencies, are appointed by the Directors, Inti-arittiitilly by the Crown. Governmeleti eloestnottdheireqnyanori power thin clt am§olie -; and it sibeerely deities fa take ample security for a most efficient and .mtlapendent.liody, The nominees will AotzbAyNeltivsealllp. ;pleaeure, ; hut. -retain their offices
during,good be eAntie::. . ' • •
'• 'The -tiMe- " +llable t ; Mit of Thal as conneetedWitly thediotimany, &Seel ierav ,
lettere-if *w ;Cava :ttnithnie for:the remaittieg .t
disure is of an experimental n-, *Ds; of ,theastiktenreestif ',Walk:144B ,cnsucbeerftxlih "next change will be the substitution of a "single government by the CrOWR: for the system of the double government" ; and the operation of the clause will be to make that change as little convulsive as possible, forming the nu- cleus of a body which will be the Council of the sole Minister nominated by the Crown.
Referring to the argument drawn from the ill effects of Destination in the Colonies, Mr. Lowe showed that the circumstances are diametrically opposite. ".The essence of Colonial governmentis a representativegovernmeut resident on the spot but the principle of the government at India is a quasi,represeut- alive principle resident in a remote country. The essence of Colonial go- vernment is reeponsibility to the people on the spot; that of the Indian go- vernment, responsibility to people in England. In a colony, the Governor is luoked-on as the image of her Majesty, and as discharging a limited duty ; whereas in India the endeavour is to put the Governor-General forward as a person combining in himself great powers, and to place in the background all. that madhinery by which his powers are oontrolled. With respect to the Colonies a brilliant future is looked forward to, when nations may arise equal to the parent country; but with respect to India, even the most sanguine cane not anticipate such a result until ages shall have passed away:. In a Co- lonial Commit, the nominees are appointed, not on account of-their judgment- and experience, but for the purpose of voting money and making laws, and of exercising the highest functions against the will of those whom they go- rem, having a power over the purse-strings; whereas in the present case the nominees will be gentlemen who have for years attended to the affairs of India, men of intellect, who will naturally carry with them that just influ- ence which intellect always commands ; and the functions of the Direetor- ship will not be to act, so much as to think and to reason. Lord STANLEY supported the principle of the elanee ; but suggested that the Directors should be nominated for ten or twelve years, and not be reeligible. He also suggested that they should not eit in Parliament. Mr. HOVE supported the amendment, to mark his objection to nomina- tion, and his attachment t,o the representative principle. Sir dawns IloGG argued against both plans, but decided in favour of the amendment. 13nnaarthought the amendment would make the matter worse than the GJvernment had made it already.
When the Committee divided, the amendment was negatived by 193 to 111,
Mr. Rica moved an amendment increasing the periods of service fur the nominees. Sir CHARLES WOOD objected, that this would oblige them to double the period for which the Directors are elected at present. In the discussion of the point, Mr. Bomar offended Sir James Hogg by stating that there had been an increasing affection of late between the, Directors and the Board of Control; and that towards the termination. of the charter there is always a strong leaning towards the Treasury. Now if the nominees be allowed to be Members of that House, " an hide-, pendent Member bringing forward a question connected with India will not only have to encounter the honourable Member for .TIoniton and the President of the Board of Control, but the fresh auxiliaries by whom they will then be supported ; and thus he will be borne down by the ac- cumulated evidence of persons interested in giving colour to transactions, or even in suppressing the truth." Fired by this, Sir JAMBS Ilona accused Mr. Bright of making all his speeches personal, without having the manliness to say what he thought. "He never rises but he says something personal and offensive." What- did he mean by his allusion to "the honourable Member for Honiton " • and his vicinity to the Treasury Bench ? "I tell the b.onourable Mem- ber for Manchester, that my conduct in Parliament has been at least as- honourable and independent as his." And Sir James, to illustrate his - fidelity to India told how, in 1845, he had refused high office offered him by Sir Robert Peel. Be had never told this before ; he told it now in his own justification: Mr. Bitraur was of opinion that he was accustomed to say -pretty reach • what he thought ; and he believed he had said nothing which any man had a right to deem offensive. But he might not have sufficiently con- sidered the delicate circumstances in which the Beet India Company are placed, and he would try to be more oareful in future, and not wound them on the tender point. (Laughter. Mr. BRIGHT subsequently propose the omission of words providing that the nominees should hold the same amount of stock-qualification , as the elected Directors. The best servants come home without fortunes. : This amendment was faintly opposed by Sir CHA.RLES WOOD; but, on e,p- peal, Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that he thought good reasons had been Riven why the words should be omitted ; and they were omitted accord- mug y. • On clause 4, yielding to a general cry from the Con:unlace, the Chair- than was instructed to report progress.
Again in Committee on Thursday, the elausealrom.4 to 9 were agreed' to almost.without c.Omment. On clause 9,.wluch provides-that six of the • persoos not elected-by the Crown shall be persons who have served ten years in India, Mr. BRIGHT asked Sir 'Charles Wood. to -alter the clause so as to include 'persons who have been in India as,,merchants or prates- . aerial men. Many Indian merchants of great knowledge and experienee, like Mr. 'Moran] Crawford, would be excluded by the clause. Sir Cuasrtes WOOD denied that such men would' be exeluded: there were , six seals open Mall the world. But Mr. Bright being supported by ap- peals from all sides of the Committee, Sir CHARLEi WOOD gave way, and. the clause as amended WIS agreed to.- The Chairmen then reported pro- , press.
SVOCESSION-DUTY.
Several amendments were proposed when the report of die Committee on the Succession-Duty Bill was brought up. On the motion of Mr, BARROW, clause I was amended by the introduction of words making money secured On land in Scotland liable to the same amount of duty as: money. -secured on land in England anddreland. A proviso was added. to cIsuse'3, on time motion of Sir Rim-vino BSVIELL, to the effect that no duty shall be payable-on. the net monies repeived.from the sale of tim. ber Or wood in any one year, unless such net monies exceed the sum of; 10/. On clause 49, providing "that every accounting party should verify; his acepunt by the production of books and document; tasfore-the Coin.; iuissioijoeijr their °Mears," Mr. GI,A.DSTONE. prOposed, priler to meet s the views of the Opposition, that the words " or-their.effiestee" ;struck out. . The Qommissioners of Revenue have unde,rtalmn this .'`Government," said Gladstene, "hate no desire Co exercise . 'arbitrary or discretionary power at all, but are perfeRtI E"7 - fere any authority in order to adjust the iyiessnie4of Yq.1 .lon the DIOtiOD of Mr: GLAIUTONE; a proviso was alinee th4114-1 acting that where the duty payable does not exceed 50I.; tht actonnti*' ty. :may Naatial to,_,the,I. e, of tha,qatusty.,CeurtiAit Eng119a= one Ceurt in :Scotlaraditati the AsibitantIiirietleatiVeurt in.,/ of the distrietlaahere • the appellatirnay, reside, or:the, preperty.bessituiter Several::amendments..:werai l'aieposed 'and : rejcieted.: Ain-, l'Assisarimia proposed that the tax should only be levied on property "to whioliAwja person shall i aumeed "Withetib *unialrratensidecittionlitridett majoraPttle- ment or other aliapoeitiOno" . Mi-.aliftiastine li'eafia S ed 1 te0.81:t4r the oidtate.10 duties so 'as to .nialtelTa' ' 'Iaga'Ithan undthe aehedulei ?titthi.bflIT lin
fact, to Make them 'c MidWith theachedules of the T;13
George III. Mr..G4ala i'aP'; alioired. thirt`filicyalue' of , lt creased; ad that the tab lei h4iebeen,04.4.0 the bitaArivfat. ,gmea rience and the latest scietiee iTkred:i,.gr, .: ,11-Liaai,X1014tie.M.0-i posed to lessett,the peried allewe fer the paymAnt of the 4ityl;,1 Teinita ting the words ensetiug: that thiaduty should, he paid ineightibalfayearlyi instalments ;-..on..the gtotind..tluatueal• property should be plaCed,on tiate same feeding as •pentonal property • in.thia ,iesjieet: • M. GLscoaric-di-) fended the di:Aim:at* as reasonable.: The Atitondment Would billy .benefie the large.proprietdre- of entailed. estates who have only a life interest in their. property;' 'rind' 'Would, 'contrary to sound principle, compel a small proprietor to encumber or sell a portion Of his estate_ 'to. pay the
tax. '
Mr. Meusams :renewed the timber discussion, by reeving: a proviso to, the effect that where timber is exChanged ;for tiniberz to be .usedist huilcia, 'Mg or repairs, it shill not( lanineltiapd.in.the,asaeasrisent of the ,dttlaf, mad: allowance shall belnade fontimber,purchased for buildingAir repairs. eat Was shown, however,: that tlie. only effect of ' the 'proviso -aticiald: be . to .in- -troduce a .deubt *Cie the nmaninig-of the words :",neoessary otitgoings";' and one &tan:it, wnegatived by '114 to 72. , , -:.: . i : • . . . The only division betidela. this Wall.: au ;clause 4,9.' iMr. gULLINGa pre- posed toexempt "muninteatAief title." frembhninspiaction of the:Com- missioners :T. but his.arnandnidativai negatived; lay. 132:te 100. •. ' - -. . The bill. wait ordered to ,. be I tea& a. third time on Monday, . amid .loud
cheers and counter-cheers. . :•. •.. . , : ! . . • :)•. • . . it - ".' - • : - ' :-Mtneaaiiinz Ilantara. • - :
In Committee on the.Merchant Shipping Bill, Admiral WAsactairkifrel siumed•thedlierission; abruptly terminated by the clock on Tiiesilay see?, night, on elaiise 20, 'which repeals the 12tla and 13th -Victoria ecip:' 29; section 7, pr,ovicling that British ships Sliall.lie navigated by a master ti'llo' is a British siihjeck and by ncrew.of which the•whole or a certaitaproportum shall be also British' subjects.' Admiral Walcott opposed the clause, int calculated to interfere with our maritime ascendancy, bring the Britian flag into disrepute, and weaken our character :abroad for gratitude • and
patriot:isn't. ' _ ' • " .
The -clanee provoked a great deal of discussion.- Mr. Isentar, Sir GEORGE PECRELL, Mr. DIGBY SEYMOUR, and Mr. DUNLOP, defending it.. , Sir JAMS' Gman.tai felt bound 'tci express his' Opinions. The seine fatal predictions Ss those now made were 'common at the repeal of the •Navigii, tion-lawa; - -yet there are now 10;090 More British seamen 'employed in the merchant-service than Tarp em loyed before :- he _Nesigation-laws the clause, 'hut; greatly as he' respected tit'e 'ciphilifit f'navtil rape in ' fi were repealed. It is truntfiat the aiming,Cbiii iftee ' are opposed. to teas not cernietted with trade, he Mit ' phi:ft-04 tliena. on thiOnt fs, Coupled with the provision of this ' ' eaeininendritidiaarloistR, most judicious. . But had this res -6 'm; the .Ciii'4e'fi; Ot170.0r.
would hatebeen pitted against' A 'LliiiiitNerVice,• there would have.
been a' conirietition-for seamen,',a 794.4 Troitki4v.e, bperi forced extra-:. varantly• high ',';• while the sqpiolfL'il.priocOd '4'4 have "been inere.aaed.'; If the clause Were not agreed' ttia,"thiii filtirdesPd'pay,Weald , be thi'aWil,:- Away, and the Queens service not an ettri* while rages would,rfsAito' the deft-ft:heat of the, nikairgidt-iftilint, -is no want of„Mhn. for either service at present' 'S,ir',Ihintitito ride that the relaxatlorils, es- sential' to the integrAats of coreaMitve, ''. Would not niately,de-' crease the-nunaber'nf British ; SoaiiiPii"erlijileY 'd'in',the ittpiohieterViceo,, but it Would niadeitife''thddand for .ierYlitgla4 4.',"Str- Utiles' in- sisted that the right of receiving younteers from 'the it404lieeti'cia. in any part of the woild'inustli Maintained ; and as a Cialivnittrifiailoa; this clause woxild.giveihe'niereliantnitirt thetright to 'recruit -' 'Mat' iegard to birth or Origin. . Nkdanger couldcriWie from "'British viisb1S" in which.: thereis nothing British but thO:coletira';' for the bill provides for the case, of simulating British ships.
' Mr. WILLIAM WILLIAMS 'thought the dense ' carried' the 'principle of free trade :toe far in allowing the coasting trade o,be carried on by;fo: reigners. 'Oh the otheAtilid,'Adelii4d B*WELs): „ difyd lir..);1,0iSoN . sup- ported the clause. ,_ : : .,, . ., Mr. HENLEY contended, that e clause was intended to beii d Wn the wages of the Bratsk seamen by ighietteinlirth 'de* ' ' ' fo- reigners ' If the ittimber_Of seatneh' 'emPloyed Since riulatitit L were repealed has increaseft,'Alinaininber of ateiit1ce 1&èatly-'. creased; and consequently trained seamen,' •Seatifen; in hb lier4Ine 'aie paid lees than mechanics; and, couplingl'he.question Or wiiii 'so' repeal of the ApPreittideship-laws,' no 'dt:Mt-can he.antle d Init tfai'
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the present measure wifttend -to' deorease. the Men ii* 16 Ter the la Walt.,
Mr.. C.anowass, in the couranof a long leply te MTh fleñley, shoyfe . that the falling-off in apprentices was a thing to be. mraeeted immediately',
after the repeal of the ; 'iitit skilled labour 'is getting, scarce, and the shipowners are,- beginuing;...to take apprentices again.- There has been e steady rianbi the hinnher since 1850' ;d during the first six nienttia At 1853let1efehitio.ibeen 37:31 eidefed. ,iiii -red -with 2 2 in the • coireepeending fiCim_of 1852. '11:1r. eardiiellie -Ewa that'ihis'isV question of Witgekt l'aierinien are said 'te receiVelii.agei` —• pOrtionately1; low ; but 'he* hi it thist these fear' it 'get; itt*re z' e' only'class', "id still protected, ..vitillia classes •e ' ' L'W.lorinitie, 'tell remu-;
nerated ?• Why,' since the 5th; eC ' 84 14t,r: amen haVe '
entered the Bratiiill Navy. 'Iti th&yilit. iire9ilinii -6'- Of the Na=: vigation-laWe we 'bad 800tY fethiPr'inerar'itiAftitblelial- 7i iinVal serviCe," than there are Maw-- We cariniatihIy freeiiitilfi'tritlfafshqppiiiii-and keep', up the thirigtniscalled'" prciteCfidn" 'for the iirtileif."('',Pithelifetient tithe IS,' fortunate for a irsimitiesi;!aiztliete is a dernaecIlbilislakpitieruigrora:
which no amount of littriply - pee' satisfy. ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' - . • ' '; ''''" ' ' ',. ii.aiiii..
After some More ditictilltdon,,.' all, running in favour of the clause,. ,. tarn Scoannoi replied in siipprixt pf „the '.apakailinent ' to expunge the; Clayate,,, which he moved list weilil bit ti'deit, the. amendment wear:mot:wed.; by 142..to 36 - aaalliae &Mae Wei airead'tia: At 'placise 38 the Cliturtaiin reported gr v4; • iift":1411,;
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ay var;mgrier price, By the recent decision eV:141144 ofeqlntheijl$ghlastpliadhn.wspapers were excluded feom•thetoperatien Int the fentLof Ifillitinvilbownbeeause the Court held tiatithe seoetwielidieLdf that ideboddfinitigiatmetkaper as a publication ocintaininganows:pulalishedimiklblti avastatailatdia dttylail not exceeding a cer- tam size, and charged not more than sixpentae,1"feisiticted the first clause, siniply:clefmlng tilnew4loaperlaim:Fpliblieatlawomititining news. Now it wpuld beninfairitoitaxAlseEKzawilisr anniepenisi attddet the Spectator at mnapetterreacime.iialAbvethmentiolglit balite arralathrigainst the decision of the Court ;: but; they iheldoiq3eglerRpliely ,tp aisatind, the law.
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argued that there should ipcnaatis erstssfonthe.rieferrnitaes of criminal and destitute childretlal kept rapiatotheiptiblie dosis silffielthonghti the bill would not carry outithisiubtatoansatifIllsealsfithaitesbuny, audhlad better be postponed. ground that it would render:, curred in the object of tha the Committee of the Housessof, up) ,i ,,,,,ii,:wii ii.:7-,i.::,,,bn 0.1T .:: - •, The Earl of SmarrasuottraiiiiIVIllint IlidIttgiinkentiiiiibsW'.thiged against the bill were unsound. Iiikkeifhtiff Ace? Wlificlitilikeinie?idishilfiyhousei of detention for orphan children. Let Inendicants and vagran0 be'placed on the seine footing. In &Oat lilted beilerfe 'that little or ire pres- sure on the accommodatioffiiik th 'ins*ifll Mime. But, to meet the objection, he proposed to confine .Vle o eratiq 'V the bill to Iserslon.: The children affected by the'billi. , _ai'di 'inapelifidren ; they are to be placed in the workhouse tin 'firdek'tbdt. _ i$4 f‘tiht, beenriie ,erinnintl. Re would not withdraw OW bittlPtit"*4 . '". ,8 niu.,.i to the amenslMente which might be proposed.„4,.,, ,,, ssa .a.t; The Earl of ABERDEEN giiIi4;y3;,,f1)4, Itttp.1411 wero limited to the, Metropolis the difficulties would pass away. He thought the ayorkhousss, would not be overcrowded.- Lord CAMPBELL warmly appreyed.n -the bills: Earl GREY thought the
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restriction crippled its effiaietILIT grJ towns ought not to be ex- cluded from its operation. ..TIma, - rismsnight,yet-to be oesssidereffisis criminal, nor should their detentagnI)Ds: tuMal; theTwouldhe,Smster the guardianship of the State. The ct.rtof Irsanownv, concurred; but Lord WHARNCLIFFE supported the restriction. , . . . The Duke of ARGYLL .4apa tba,t4Act of Lord Aberde.en's having, acceded to the suggestionofT.ord Slinfte,slmry would not be supposed to imply that Ministers objeeked to thellincipk of the bill. Itiwas of para- mount importance. The „principle liacl,JAegn, successfully carried,out by Mr. Sheriff Watson in Aberdeen, and crime h.adgreatly dirniAishgcl.,,,,Ttm, Loan Caiwcimiku explainsd-,that, hewas not hostile to ;the.principloof the bill, and his only desme,was ton:rake it wink
The bill then passed thrhugh Committee, with amendments. ,
On the report being brisUght,np,,.Itsird Sttumastnisy pmposed to limit, the operation of the bill tenhi,drettyndeCteri years efsages- Lord CAMP- BELL suggested that boys and ;girls whelostensiblyeweep.isiorossing; bet who are really beggars, should be inelaslcds:- Issnd Sua.Frasutniv_promised to endeavour to inelude•them.:. The RepOrt as amended was agreed :to.
Mr. ADDERLEY movediler-leave to bring in ti . bill for the better care
and reformation of juvenileSofferider. • ' ' '
This bill is a sort of corollary to the 10th and 11th Victoria, cap. 32, bv- which summary jurisdiction over children syais given to the Magistrates, and. a power to call for sureties for their goedbeluividhr. The bill provifiell, that in default of such sureties, and without any sureties being require/Of the= Magistrate should deem"fit; such elaildren might be sent to reffirMiltdry schools, permissively establiehill'insany'eoirrir ier"tierongh, the magistrates of which agreed to apply 'fbedSderititiy df-Stal.°-This bIll lmbedted the resolutions of the Commit ,iiteriiibieliMiSBehi 'flied presided, and which' ebetieet had conducted a minutdint,eititidiPinte-thtP . ' "for two years. If, at this late period of the sdaslenishli.lAilderlely= 6 no more than obtain a. ep vice—tre should-have ncentili ' jon a dhtitsle liAljtiesition the wandering discussion upon the ser reaffili Ale. siniuld; then:have done this Ser.., tbk speenlations and expersthetits'Whic •vieregorniebil els:mahout the country, and he should have enablgd.her Majeaty:s Geyer-di:Went to consider whether
they would, in the nett tom' intittltide leilloreiiiiitnte and complete Mea-
sure. .1.1 :JAI 1:1 , , !III 9J111:1%,t11 Ire Li J.: The bill was brought inYand read tiffirSti.tirtreseeand reading fixed for the 27th.
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BErrmor7wnsr.s,, . „ The ATroitivirv-Giumms..1., has. obtanedleasseSto bring in a bill to sup- press betting-houses. ' lie, did not Wislistelintierifere ;with- betting on the old established method, .butigient "nvilisslittAnsilhientftenst,these betting- houses. There are froth Orie hundred' th•Mieladildretl'and fife,/ of them in London, and a like prepeition in tlientniiitrY: ■`-''''.. - ' - There is not a prison in Landon, or an establishment for the reform of offenders, from which abundant 'and comildeislilestimony may not be ga- thered of the vast number ofpersarie 'eStieeikillsqthrtliful persons, who have been led into crime by the dreadfil ietiiptitione held out Iii betting-houses. The bill prohibits the 'opening of iniaseti kir tliii Prii•P'dsesel betting, inflict- ing penalties upon the persons concerned in such establishments; undiness much as mischief appears to arien-.1nTan the advanceof tummy in the first in- stance in the expectation cif reeeivisigltirker strcidtmen a given contingency, that is forbidden by theprosioisedbill/- ssslissuT " • ' •oitAirkkillaltr-ii§k*e. - Lord Sr. Lzosrunns',prcipdies'ilint fd ,pr906. 4 -further this year with the Digest of the Criminal L - •I'Llidk' 'refer the matter—which has received almost as much eubloi'belte ' the Select Committee as had been applied to the Code, l'Z' ' lhbiir-L e Judges in detail ; and after they have given their,opinion i to P With. the subject:next session. iitY.." use; , id sd Adele, s: iqFP'.7., :
9 to the existing system of
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Poor-law medical relief,,,,Wills;:a ;sste..yi ; ,Tevistun ; contending that
medical relief should -he e,:i.t.t#04.41,ganiappoes Out of neglected sickness springs much of the pitoper* Of, th:e7conftfisy.,, Labouring men are too
poor to get relief. ,o •
Mr. BAINES said, that medical relief is more extensively administered now than ever it bee,licen„bafore.,,;„•,,,;„ ,;; -s In 1838, the coSt siiesIK400f Rpoiwa4 pq,qm.; in 1844; 166,2571.; hat year, 2;0591; ' i'lAs 1ilO or 212:059/.' sexclutiveôf 25,894/. which was paid for vaccination ; and, as one result' of the Com= mittee of 1844, theire6vegesiktraelfeesil4w-siirgeotts,siunciturtfing ,in.1840 to 549W., and in 1852 to .130;7217donffiliehmthenumbenofsinediealiofficers had been increased : in:18:3t3nthe.,101.1Mbettwaiti2f191.4 thaslatuquest attounted to 3233. The districts have also been materially abridged.
Sir Joins Tnormn jected to the propha speakers agreed tit/4 tended.
• Under- these- circumstances, and without any remark ,whatever, Mr: Epwssm Bats, moved the felleyeing regolution-,- ' " That this Ilduse do resolve itself into a. COmmittee for the purpose of Censidering the duties on malt, with. a view of making such alteration in fhoSe'diities that the farmer may be exempt from the malt-duty on such tMbtit ernitaltlas lie mhy require' for his own use, made from barleY of his own. grotith.f • ' Sir JOHN SHELLEY- said he did-not rise to complain of the coarse of proCoeding,tehich, he thought; Would teach hlitneters a Very geed les- son,-,sbut to say that he would vote for the perfectlyrergonable proposi- tionof Mr. Mall, 'series Of "Divide'" and " Withdraw !" seemed to herald an immediate division ; but Mr. Oissesvolen unexpectedly entered .the House, amid' inuch laughter, and he pineeeded to speak a,sesinat the motion; prethising that he had never been so for-tunate as to find that the business' began for half or three-quarterls Of an hour after the meeting of the Heine, oWiflg. to interpellations and other• preliMinary Matter. Ile pointed out the- trmbiguity of the terms of the resolution: Was it intended to confer Upon the-farmers the privilege of Malting for their own consumption, or- for farming ptuposes ? 'Ile had two Constructions before bibs. If Ilarnters were allowed to brew beer and spirits "for their owri use," their a large revernie5,000,0091,--vioulcl be impaired. The utility of malt for feed- ing:cattle' is 'denied by' the highest ehernical authorities, who contend that 'bardey is better adapted 'lb that purpose than -malt. If the farmer 'were allowed to steep hits barley and 'then convert it-into malt, excise-officers would be needed on every farm in the country. The Rothe divided—For the motion; 69; against it, 73; Government majtiiity, 4.
: SIMONY.
Lord GODERICH, in the absence of Mr. Robert Phillimore, moved the second reading of the Simony Law Amendment Bill. In support of the bill, hel urged reasons einfilar to these ;set forth by Mr. Phillimore last week ; contending that the sale of next.presentations was a scandal to the Church. Mr. GEORGE Burr again spoke against the bill.; Isis main argu- ment being,--that next presentations are as much _private property as any estate in the country, and that to take them away Would-violate' the right of property; He moved that thehill be read issecond time that dale three:months. Sir Gsonen GREY supported-the amendlioent on it different ,gronnd.. The hill , proposed a change so Small thaVit'was not
worth.the. consideration of Parliament.■• ward& only applije to a ease -of rare oectuxenees-Ahist ofe layman purchasing the next presentation to a,
liviirgsgoing into. holy orders, and takinrthe livinghielf. -. .--LotscliGeinaltacu felt thin, in the face of the opposition, the bill
could not carried this session; and be withdrevi his motion for the amend reading.; • ,
PROBATE OF WILLS.
In replydo Mr. Hunsanui,Lord PALMERSTON' stated, that next session, Government will introduce ahill.embracing this geneealsqnestionsef:pro bate.; but he could net „give any pledge as to the details of the measure. Upon this Mr. Hatirmua moved that the order of the• day for going into Committee on the 'Probate of Wills and Grants of Administration Bill:be read and discharged.-=Agreed to; •
• COUNTY-BATES.
• Mr. MILNER ,GinsoN asked whether there was any truth in the rumour that Ministers were in favour of the principle of the County Rates and Expenditure Bill ; and whether they were prepared to bring ma bill de- rising the requisite machinery for carrying it Out. A reply in the affirma- tive might change the Out* of the day's proceedings. lIe saw many gentlemen on the beindieS opposite, who had doubtless attended with a view of assisting him to perfect his measure' by' ern cliche ents. (.1 tizu0.)' Lord PALMERSTON mid, that though Mr. Gibson had invited his friends opposite to hold a conv,onaziOne on the subject of the bill, there Was little chance of its pasting this session; and he should advise him to post- pone further notice-of the-sleekly meetings.- (A laugh.) If Mr. Gibson drop the bill, Ministers will next session, propose to Parliament such a measure as-they may think fit to recommend; founded on the principle of repreeentatiOrt aa'regards the,admithstration of 1116 affairs of counties. Accordingly; on the motion ' of Mr: Girisox, the order for going into Committee 'on the bill was read and discharged.