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PRINCIPAL BUSINESS OF THE WEEK.

Hones or Loans, Monday, March 14. New Chancery Courts ; Lord Chancel- lor's Bill read a first time.

Tuesday, March 15. Stade Dues ; Lord Malmesbury's Statement—Grand Juries ; Lord Chancellor's Bill read a second time.

Thursday, March 17. Montenegro ; Lord Clarendon's Question—Debtor and Creditor. Bill read a third time and passed. Friday, March 18. Irish Magistracy ; Lord Londonderry's Question—Water Colour Society ; Lord St. Leonard's Question—Indian policy ; Lord Clanricarde's Question.

Hones or COMMONS. Monday, March 14. Metropolitan Drainage ; Mr. Tile's Statement—Titles to Landed Estates Bill in Committee—Supply ; Mr. Williams's

Motion—The Twenty-sixth Native Infantry ; Mr. Gilpin's Complaint—Oaths Amendment Act Bill read a second time.

Tuesday. March 15. Morning sitting; Church Rates Abolition ; Sir John Tre. lawny's Bill read a second time, by 242 to 168. Evening sitting : " No House." Wednesday, March 16. Bankruptcy mid Insolvency ; Lord J. Russell's Bill read a second time—Lunatic Poor (Ireland) Bill referred to Select Committee—Oaths Amendment Act Bill committed—Recreation Grenada Bill read a third time and passed—Municipal Elections ; Mr. Cross's Bill committed—The Mutiny Bills read a third time and passed.

Thursday, March 17. British Museum ; Mr. Gregory's Motion—Privileges of the Guards ; Sir J. Trelawny's Motion—Fire Insurances ; Mr. Sheridan'a Motion— The state of the Navy ; Sir C. Napier's Motion—Oaths Amendment Act Bill read a third time and passed. Friday, March 18. Reform MU; Mr. Roebuck's Suggestion—Thanks to Lords Canning and Clyde ; Lord John Russell's Question—Civil Service Superannuation Bill committed.

CHURCH-RATES.

At a morning sitting of the House of Commons on Tuesday, Sir Joan TRFJAWNY moved the second reading of his Church-rates Abolition Bill. Mr. DARBY GRIFFITH moved, as an amendment, a resolution pledging the House to a compromise. The supporters of the measure were for a compromise in 1856. Why not now ? Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT was for a

conciliatory measure of compromise, -which he thought the House of Lords would accept. The question is not one • elchlitivcly between Churchmen and Dissenters. People vote against them, as they would against any other taxes, to avoid them. He suggested -the plan already embodied in Mr. Walpole's bill, and rejected. At the suggestion of Mr. Esreounr, the amendment, which he said could lead to no substantial result, was withdrawn.

Mr. BERESFORD HOPE then moved to defer the second reading to that day six months. All Dissenters are not in favour of abolishing church- rates. That object is confined to those who, like Dr. Wardlaw and Mr. Miall, avow -a desire to " pull down"— ' pulling down," says Dr. Wardlaw, " is an apostolic phrase "—the Church of England. The Liberation Society, by newspapers, by pamphlets, by tracts, and by all the appliances used by agitators, had got up this factitious agitation. He had before him a handbill, which was circulated in many rural parishes, in which it was said, " In large towns church-rates have long ceased to exist, and why should they be kept up in this parish ?" Of course the words " this parish " applied to every parish, and many a rustic would think what a clever man they had got in the parish, who could draw up such a placard. This was the kind of agitation that was going on. Mr. Drama said he had given up hopes of a compromise since Mr. Hadfield had said, " We have got a majority, and nothing will satisfy us but en- tire abolition." Yet he advocated a compromise. Church-rates have been misappropriated. He would confine them to the maintenance of the fabric and the churchyard. He would give churchwardens power to levy a rate, and permit any one to exempt hirnaelf by presenting an ob= jection in writing. Mr. Sremer WORTLEY followed the line of Mr. Hope. Lord Joan HANKERS said the time for compromise was gone by, and then said he reserved to himself the right of discussing any further compromise that might be offered ! The only speakers for the bill were Mr. OSBORNE and Mr. GREEN-. woon. The supporters of the measure were silent, because the debate was one against time.

On a division, the second reading was carried by 242 to 168 ; majority 74.

TITLES TO LANDED ESTATES.

The House of Commons went into Committee on Monday upon the Title to Landed Estates Bill ; and here the discussion on the principle and expediency of the measure was renewed. Mr. MALINs put forth a series of objections in detail. The bill will not apply copyholds, nor to settled estates or estates held for lives. This diminishes its value. There are few estates with bad titles. Those who have no flaw in their titles need not go to the court; those who have will not. Then the applica- tion of the bill to unencumbered estates is new. The working of the Irish act affords no experience. It is contrary to the principle of justice to make a judicial declaration in favour of one person in the absence of others interested. Yet that might happen under the bill. Unless you can abolish settlements you can never make the title to land as simple as the title to stock. A registry is to be established to register nothing, and the result of this measure will be only to incur expense. Mr. HEADLAM supported the measure ' • and said he was no recent convert to its prin- ciples. Mr. BOWYER said the bill was only a palliation of the bad state of the law of real property. He did not think the bill would be very useful. Mr. HADFIELD said the bill would not apply to small properties, would increase expense and multiply the opportunities of fraud. Mr. WALPOLE defended the measure ; a task more fully performed by Sir liven Canine himself. He said it was gratifying that so able a man as Mr. Malin had been reduced to minute criticisms. As to the principle of the bill being novel, why, it was introduced ten years ago in the Irish Court which was empowered to pronounce once and for ever whether a good title had been made out. It was said the bill does not apply to copyholds. It does not; because there is a kind of registry for copyholds. It is, however, a mistake to say it does not apply to settled estates. The bill will apply in all cases where trustees have power to sell. It does not apply to leaseholds. As a new experi- ment, it was best to begin with fee-simple estates. Atsome future time, he hoped it would be extended to leaseholds. Sir Hugh showed that great care had been taken to prevent wrong being done to absent parties, and warned the House against the arguments of terror used by Mr. Malin. Ho also informed the House that the solicitors had approved the general principles of the bill. They do not desire that any effect the measure may have upon their emoluments should stand in the way of its adoption. He hoped to devise a plan of paying them ad valorem, in- stead of by length. That will be bettor both for solicitor and client. Lord Joan Russet', expressed grave doubts as to the use that would be made of the new court; and asked why a new court is necessary. Sir HUGH CAIRNS said that the great evil at present is that after you have ascertained your title at great expense and delay, if you subsequently wish to deal with your estate, you must undergo all the expense and de- lay again. If estates are sold in lots, every purchaser requires an ab- stract of the title. The Court will, in future, do it once for all. And to carry out the principle of the bill there must be a new court, or none at all, seeing that its business will be wholly different from that of any court in the country. The Judges should be more properly called " ju- dicial conveyancers." Sir ERSKINE PERRY said the chief merit of the bill was that it creates a new court. Mr. MALnis insisted that all the provisions in the bill would not prevent the springing up of a new crop of complexity and difficulty. The measure having been defended by Ho explained in the House that this clause is intended to carry into effect Mr. CARDWELL, the preamble was postponed, four clauses were agreed the notice of motion given by Mr. William lilies.

to, and the Chairmain reported progress. Heinen AND Cnenrron. On the motion that the bill of the Lord Chan- On a motion for going into Committee of Supply, Mr. WILLM

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moved that the Naval Estimates should bo referred to a Select COM- mittee; alleging as a reason the increase of these estimates since 1835. R Sir Hexer VERNEY seconded the motion. This led to a discussion. Many negatived by 38 to 23. The bill passed. Members, among them Mr. LINDSAY and Admiral WALDO; held that

vice a reference of the estimates to a committee would injure the public ser- vi by taking the burden of responsibility from the Government ; Mr.

naval affairs of the country. pulled down. To give this security the Lord Chancellor asks power to

But although there was a pretty general objection to the proposal of take 4000/. a 3.m from the Suitors Fee Fund for ninety-nine years. The Mr. Williams, nearly every Member who spoke insisted on the necessity Lord Chancellor strongly deprecates the appropriation of the Suitor's Fee of some inquiry. It is absolutely necessary, they said, after the state- Fund to the execution of that magnificent scheme whioh contemplates the ments, " accusations," Sir FRANCLS BASING called them, which have building of courts for all the courts of law and equity on one site. To take been made against successive Boards of Admiralty. Sir FRANCIS RARING, the Fee Fund for that purpose would be an improper application of money Mr. OSBORNE, and Sir Sons; Peenrorox, gave instances of errors in the belonging to the Court of Chancery.

calculations of Lord Clarence Paget. Sir JOHN Paerworos said, that a FIRE INSURANCES. Mr. SHERIDAN asked leave to introduce a bill to minute inquiry into expenditure has been going on at the Admiralty for reduce the duty on Fire Insurances. Negatived by 112 to 102. the last six months. He will, however, wait for no committee of in- Tee Berrien Museum. Mr. GREGORY moved for a Select Committee to quiry to answer the grave attacks of Lord Clarence Paget ; but will inquire into the reoegarrization of the British Museum. He gave a graphic shortly lay upon the table a full statement of the appropriation of all description of the congested state of the collections. The marbles from moneys voted for dockyard purposes during the last eleven years. Mr. Halicarnassus are in glass conservatories which deface the building ; the OSBORNE said he should not be content with a return. He desired an op- marbles from Carthage are in cellars ; the zoological collection is almost portunity of proving how erroneous are the views of those who say useless, no specimen can be examined without displacing two or three 5,000,0001. have been wasted. Lord CLARENCE Pacer protested against others; the osteological collection can only be studied at great in-

the idea that he had attacked Sir Baldwin Walker ; and declared that Sir convenience ; prints and drawings cannot be exhibited for want of space.

Baldwin is wholly irresponsible for the shortcomings he had pointed out. rothe most is not made of the Museum treasures. There was much difference In a temperate speech Sir Joan TRELAWNY moved for a Select Corn- amended form. mittee to inquire into the nature and effect of the privileges of the THE HE 4. X' AVY. Sir CHARLES NAPIER moved for copies of the letters ad- Guards. He drew attention in detail to facts which have recently been dressed by Sir Baldwin Walker to the Admiralty since March 1858. This placed before the readers of this journal, the Army rank, exemption from led to a supplemental discussion on the state of the Navy. Sir JOHN Colonial service, staff appointments, appointments to Colonelcies of Line PAKINGTON said it would be neither iu accordance with precedent nor bens- regiments, precedence at courts-martial and in the field, and other pri- ficial to the public service to produce the letters. This had great weight

vileges over the Line. with the House, and the motion was negatived by 177 to 26.

The answers of General Peet, Lord BURY, Colonel NORTH, and other MentoromraN DRAINAGE. In reply to a question from Mr. WILLIAMS, defenders of the Guards' privileges were, that the motion touched on the Mr. Trim, as a member of the Metropolitan Board of Works, stated what Royal prerogative; that there had been a great deal of inquiry ; • that the progress has been made towards the drainage of the metropolis. On the privileges have been diminished by the warrant of 1854 ; that the aye- South aide there are two systems. One starts from Clapham the other from tem of exchanges enables the Line to participate in the privileges of the Putney ; both end at Deptford, and the sewage will enter the Thames at Guards; that the Line officers are not jealous of the Guards; that the Erith. Contracts for the former have been concluded. On the North aide Guards ought to have higher pay because they pay more for their con- there will he three great sewers, all meeting at one point in the Lea, missions; that the Line regiments are unfit to garrison London, because whence they will flow into Barking Creek. One starts from Hampatead, e a they get into "scrapes ." Mr. CONINGHAM endeavoured to sepport the Thames. The sewer from Hampstead will be finished in twelve months.

motion, but be was cried down. The whole will cost 3,000,000/. The Bank of England has advanced the

On a division the motion was negatived by 136 to 31. Uproarious money at 31 per cent. It will be paid off in thirty years.

cheers were raised by the victors.

day morning. deprecated that system of exciting insurrections in Turkish provinces which Lord Joust RessELL's Bankruptcy and Insolvency Bill was read a must lead to the dismemberment of Turkey ; and trusted it would be made second time, after a prelude of complimentary speeches from Mr. plain that England will remain faithful to the policy she is pledged to uphold. Barses, Mr. VANCE, Sir FITZROY KELLY, Mr. CRAWFORD, Mr. The Earl of MALMESBURY did not seem ready to give the papers. He said ARROYO, and Mr. HEADLAAL It is, however, admitted that amend- the matter of the boundary has been amicably arranged, after considerable

meats must be made in Committee. and serious differences with France. The boundary had been laid down by

went a damaging criticism from the Irish members; it was read a se- noble earl has alluded, I regret them as much as he does. I can only say cond time but the Government yielding to pressing suggestions, re- that the Government look upon those great questions not as poets but as 130- ferred it toga Select Committee. liticians, and that the cry about nationalities and matters of that sort, which Mr. BOUVERIE carried through Committee a bill to amend the Oaths may excite the imagination, but which have no foundation on real political Act of last session. In that act the form of the declaration made by wisdom, has no effect upon us. We consider the integrity of the Ottoman Quakers was per incuriam altered, and words were inserted to the effect empire as important to the welfare of Europe and to the prevention of future that the Quakers undertook to defend her Majesty and the succession to disturbances and wars as any part of the public law of nations which has ex- the throne. Mr. Bouverie proposes to restore the original form. Mr. isted since the Treaty of Vienna."

SPOONER, Mr. BENTINCs and others objected to this; but the good STADE Dues. In reply to a question from Lord CL. \RENDON, Lord sense of the Committee prevailed, and the change was agreed to. MALIIESBURY stated what has been done reapeotingthe Stade Dues. Notice The Municipal Elections bill went through Committee. A curious was given to Hanover in August to terminate the treaty in accordance with,a point arose. Mr. VERNON Smrrn said clause 18 abolished the system of report of Parliament. It has been duly acknowledged and therefore stands voting papers hitherto used at municipal elections, and would assimilate perfectly good from that date. But when Lord Malmesbury was in Han- the proceedings in voting to those at Parliamentary elections. Now he over with the Queen be had a conversation with Count Platen, in which the

believed that the system of voting papers is generally approved. Mr. latter remarked that he could adduce evidence against terminating the Crtoss, the father of the bill, explained. postpone the notice, but said he would withdraw it if,Count Platen's evi-

The system of voting papers as it now exists, is open to very great abuse. donee refuted that given to the House of Commons. Subsequently the In the neigbourhood of the voting places there is generally a committee Hanoverian Government took advantage of an expression in a despatch and room belonging to some of the candidates, and, on pretence of enabling the construed it into a suspension of the notice. That construction Lard voter to fiU up his voting paper, parties get the Teter into this room, and Malmesbury resisted, and after a controversy Count Platen admitted that either induce him to fill up the paper according to their wishes, or, by some if the notice was not good in August it was good on the 10th Decer fiber. misrepresentation, to strike out the names which ho has inserted, and insert The question is one of considerable difficulty. Hanover has imposed charges others. (This announcement was received with loud criesof " Hear, hear r' which she should not have imposed ; and those charges should be modified,

by Members on the Opposition aide of the_liouse.) if possible, by diplomatic means. If the negotiation fails all the papers

The clause was retained.___ shall be laid on the table. .

THE REFORM BILL. Mr. Disraeli has placed on the paper the amedraent THE TWENTY-SIXTH NATIVE INFANTRY. Mr. GLLPIN drew the atten- he promised last week. It is in the following form— tion of the House to the destruction of the Twenty-Sixth Native Infantry Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer,—In Committee on Representation of at Ujnalla. This regiment was disarmed. While in cantonments at Mean the People Bill, to move the following Clause— Meer in July 1851, the Sepoys killed two officers, and made off. They (Reserving option to present owners in boroughs to vote for the county if were pursuei and captured by Mr. Cooper, a magistrate ; and he had them

they prefer to do so.) all shot at once without trial. Sir John Lawrence and Mr. Montgomery Provided always, That any person who at the passing of this Act shall be approved of this deed. Mr. Cooper has published an account of it in a bcok entitled to be registered as a voter for any county in respect of his ownership and has glorified his own achievements in a manner that is indefensible. of any freehold, oopyhold, or leasehold interest in property situate within Mr. Gilpin severeq censured, not only Mr. Cooper, but Sir John Lawrence

the limits of any borough, shall, in case he shall thank proper to claim the and Mr. Montgomery, and asked a censure from Lord Stanley. He was same, according to the provisions hereinafter contained, have the option to supported by General THomrsoN, Lord STANLEY regretted the indiscri- be registered in respect of such property for the county within which such minute execution of the men, but showed that they were guilty of murder borough is situate ; but, in order to be so registered, such claim must be sent and mutiny ; that Sir John Lawrence thought a severe punishment would in to the overseers of the parish in which such property shall be situate not act as an example, deter other disarmed regiments, and save lives ; for had later than the twenty-fourth day of July in the year next but one following the regiment escaped they would have joined the insurgents and other regi- the passing of this Act; and after such claim shall have been once made and menta might have followed them. At this distance of time wo are hardly admitted for such county, the claimant shall be incapacitated from ever fair judges of the feelings of the men engaged iu such a conflict, and Ire claiming to vote for such borough in respect of the same or in respect of his hoped the House would pass over the transaction with that silence which ownership of any other freehold, copyhold, or leasehold property in such is sometimes the most judicious comment.

borough, so long as he shall continue to hold the qualification in respect of which he shall have so claimed to vote for the county as aforesaid.

of complexity and difficulty. The measure having been defended by Ho explained in the House that this clause is intended to carry into effect to, and the Chairmain reported progress. Heinen AND Cnenrron. On the motion that the bill of the Lord Chan- THE NAVAL. ESTIMATES. cellor should paas, Lord CRANWORTH moved the ontisaion of the clauses touching official assignees. He said their retention would lead us

back to the bad old state of things before there were official assignees. Lord

OVESTONE and Lord Geer supported the motion, but on a division it was THE NEW Clissresey COURTS. The Lord CHANCELLOR has brought in

a bill enabling him to enter upon en arrangement with the Society of Liu- coin's Inn for the building of new Courts. The Society will construct new courts at their own expense providing a rent of 4 per cent on the outlay is

BENTINCK and others objected to appointing a committee to conduct the secured to them as a guarantee for the loss of rents on chambers that may be

naval affairs of the country. pulled down. To give this security the Lord Chancellor asks power to

the idea that he had attacked Sir Baldwin Walker ; and declared that Sir convenience ; prints and drawings cannot be exhibited for want of space. A variety of plans have been broached, and many suggestions made ; but

Baldwin is wholly irresponsible for the shortcomings he had pointed out. rothe most is not made of the Museum treasures. There was much difference

The amendment was withdrawn. of opinion, and although the Government did not object to the Committee,

THE PRIVILEGES OF THE GUARDS. Mr. GREGORY withdrew his motion, with the object of submitting it in an mittee to inquire into the nature and effect of the privileges of the THE HE 4. X' AVY. Sir CHARLES NAPIER moved for copies of the letters ad- Guards. He drew attention in detail to facts which have recently been dressed by Sir Baldwin Walker to the Admiralty since March 1858. This placed before the readers of this journal, the Army rank, exemption from led to a supplemental discussion on the state of the Navy. Sir JOHN Colonial service, staff appointments, appointments to Colonelcies of Line PAKINGTON said it would be neither iu accordance with precedent nor bens- regiments, precedence at courts-martial and in the field, and other pri- ficial to the public service to produce the letters. This had great weight The answers of General Peet, Lord BURY, Colonel NORTH, and other MentoromraN DRAINAGE. In reply to a question from Mr. WILLIAMS, defenders of the Guards' privileges were, that the motion touched on the Mr. Trim, as a member of the Metropolitan Board of Works, stated what Royal prerogative; that there had been a great deal of inquiry ; • that the progress has been made towards the drainage of the metropolis. On the privileges have been diminished by the warrant of 1854 ; that the aye- South aide there are two systems. One starts from Clapham the other from tem of exchanges enables the Line to participate in the privileges of the Putney ; both end at Deptford, and the sewage will enter the Thames at Guards; that the Line officers are not jealous of the Guards; that the Erith. Contracts for the former have been concluded. On the North aide Guards ought to have higher pay because they pay more for their con- there will he three great sewers, all meeting at one point in the Lea, missions; that the Line regiments are unfit to garrison London, because whence they will flow into Barking Creek. One starts from Hampatead, e a

second from Kilburn ; the third is connected with the embankment of th

they get into "scrapes ." Mr. CONINGHAM endeavoured to sepport the Thames. The sewer from Hampstead will be finished in twelve months.

motion, but be was cried down. The whole will cost 3,000,000/. The Bank of England has advanced the

MONTENEGRO. The Earl of CLARENDON, prefacing his question by a THE WEDNESDAY SITTING. speech on Montenegrin affairs, asked for papers on the subject. Ho seemed

A variety of measures were, for once, advanced a stage on Wednes- to think that France and Russia had shown a spirit unfriendly to the Porte,

meats must be made in Committee. and serious differences with France. The boundary had been laid down by

The Lunatic Poor (Ireland) Bill, brought in by Lord .Nsas, under- Commissioners appointed by-the parties to the treaty of Paris; and engi-

neers are to stake it out. " With respect to those intrigues to which the

treaty unknown to the House of Commons. Lord Malmesbury declined to

THE REFORM BILL. Mr. Disraeli has placed on the paper the amedraent THE TWENTY-SIXTH NATIVE INFANTRY. Mr. GLLPIN drew the atten- Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer,—In Committee on Representation of at Ujnalla. This regiment was disarmed. While in cantonments at Mean

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