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1. RENEWAL OF THE BANK CHARTER. On Monday, when the order of the day was read for the House resolving itself into a Com- mittee on the Bank Charter, Lord A I.THORC stated, that in order to remove the apprehensions of those who feared that, from payment in gold only being obtainable in London for notes of fire pounds end opwaro:-:, a scarcity of' coin might =se in the country, he would propose an alteration in the second re- solution, which would enable persons presenting a 51. note NI- payment at a country banker's, to get tivc sovereigns for it. He did not think this alteration of much importance. He was desirous also of post- poning the discussion on the 6th and 8th resolutions, relating to joint stock companies, in order that the Counn:ttee might dispose of the other resolutions as soon as possible ; and he might then be enabled to found a bill for the renewal of' the Bank Charter upon the report.

Sir ROBERT PEEL—" 11 I rightly understand the noble Lord, he means that for every 5/. note a man presents he shall receive live sove- reigns. Of course, then, if he takes one hundred 5/. notes, he may make a separate demand for each, and will receive gold for them all."

Lord Aurumte—" No, no."

Sir ROBERT PEEL—" If he takes them separately, then ? "

Lord ALTIIORP—" Not in the same day, for that would occasion a serious run upon the bank. I do not apprehend any such thing would occur ; but if the effect of the alteration would be to destroy the effect ei the resolution, I shall not persevere in it." (Laughter.) Sir ROBERT PEEL—" I am sorry if I have shaken the noble Lord's confidence in his own proposition ; which I most certainly eannot think he has well considered. Nothing could be so absurd, as that a man presenting a N. note should be able to get five sovereigns, but upon presenting two .5/. notes, should not be able to get ten sovereigns. (‘' Hear !" and lavlder.) Mr. WeenunrosT observed, that the object of the proposition might be evaded, unless country bankers were compelled to issue only Si. notes, or multiples of 5/. notes. It was evident that they might evade the obligation to pay in gold, by issuing notes for 5/. and a fraction.

Mr. POULETT THOMSON said, that the pressure upon the Bank of Et gland, in times of panic, arose from the demands of the country bankers upon it for gold to pay for their notes and the deposits of their customers, but principally the latter. By making Bank of England

notes a legal tender, this latter pressure would be got rid of, and this was the main design of the proposition.

Sir JOHN WROTTESLEY admitted that the measure was called for by the country bankers, but he did not approve of it. It would have the effect of depreciating the notes.

Sir GEORGE PHILLIPS said, that it was tantamount to another re- striction act. He would most strenuously oppose the proposition, which filled him with astonishment and alarm.

Mr. BARING approved of making Bank of England notes a legal tender, and saw very little cause for alarm about the matter.

Sir ROBERT PEEL reminded the House, that the 1/. and '2/. notes

were in circulation during the great panic of 182.5. By the withdrawal of these notes, another commercial panic was in a great measure guarded against. The present proposition would not give much security to the country bankers ; for their customers, in order to get gold, would draw cheeks upon them for 4/. 19s, 6d.

Lord Althorp now said that a man who presented one 5/. note should be en- titled to demand coin for it, but if he presented another at the same time he should not be able to obtain gold for it. But suppose the second note should be presented in half an hour after the first : when a panic prevailed, persons who wished to obtain gold would be astute enough to find out the means of de- feating this arrangement. A inan who had twenty Si. notes, might employ his own servants or friends to get them converted into gold.

He quoted some remarks of Adam Smith in enforcement of the advantage and necessity of restraining the issue of notes not convert- ible into gold. He never was more surprised in his life, than when Lord Althorp proposed to make bank-notes a legal tender.

The system which Adam Smith, writing d priori, fifty or sixty years since, recommended as the best which could be established, now existed in this coun- try, and that xvits the system which Lord Althorp proposed to change. No act of Parliament could ever induce people to place confidence in a paper currency. Mr. P. THOMSON said, that country bankers would, as usual, be obliged to furnish themselves with gold for the use of their customers. In order to meet the demands upon them, they would have to send to London for cash, as they do at present : the only difference would be, that they would take back notes instead of gold. The worst conse- quences of a plan which had so many advantages would be, that the country bank-notes miglit•be displaced by Batik of England paper ; but he much doubted whether that would be the case.

Mr. WA a iicieroN did not think that so great a change ought to stand upon one leg. The single fact, that the bad effects of an internal commercial panic might be lessened by making Bank of England notes a legal tender, did not justify so great an alteration.

Mr. GISBORNE supported the resolution, because its tendency was. to do away with part of the gold circulation.

Mr. F. LEWIS spoke against the plan.

Lord Althorp's proposition had been described as replete with advantages to the country bankers; all he could say was, that if he were a country banker, he should depreeate the boon. Mr. Baring had said, that in the event of war breaking out, a Bank restriction must be resorted to; and in that case, he beg- hed the House to consider what situation the country bankers would be placed in. Suppose Parliament not to be sitting at the time, and that an Order in Council should be issued to prevent the Bank of England paying in gold : the country bankers would still be liable to pay in gold ; their cofil..rs would be drained; and when they sent to London for gold, they would find that a restric- tion was placed upon the Bank.

Mr. Hien-minas approved of the proposed alteration, and hoped Lord Althorp would not abandon it.

Mr. GROTE had thought at first that Lord Althorp's plan would be beneficial, and he bad fully concurred in it ; but upon subsequent in- quiry and reflection, he bad formed the opinion that it would effect more harm than good.

He did not mean to deny that country hankers would he induced, by motives of competition. to supply gold to their customers ; but this supply. of coin would be limited to their immediate localities, and would not spread, as It ought to do, over the whole of England, in the poorer districts as well as the rich. This would cause a premium to be asked for payments in gold.

Considerable inconvenience would also result from the working of the measure— Would not sniall tradesmen be deterred from carrying their weekly accumu- lations of gold, amounting to 201. or 30/., to the country banks, if they could not get their money out when they wanted it on demand Lord Althorp's plan would compel these tradesmen to forego the benefit of a deposit bank ; and all that encouragement to regularity of business, and habits of frugality and indus- try, which dealing with 6bankers inul die effect of promoting, would be taken away. At the same time, the country bankers would be deprived of the means of effecting much benefit in their respective districts by accumulating the small sums of individuals, and employing- them in useful objects. These results must follow, as soon as depositors ceased to have a legal power to demand gold ; but lie admitted that the alteration now proposed by Lord Althorp removed to a cer- tain extent his objection.

Lord A LTHORP remarked on the inconsistency of Mr. Grote's pre- sent opinions with those expressed by him in his evidence before the Bank Charter Committee.

Mr. CLAY, Sir JOHN WROTTESLEY, MP. FORSTER, Mr. MARK PHILLIPS, Colonel TORRENS, Lord SANDON, Mr. EWART, and Sir H. WILLOUGHBY, all expressed their disapprobation of making Bank of England notes a legal tender.

Mr. ROBINSON and Mr. P. SCROPE supported the resolution.

Lord A LTHORP, in answer to a question by Mr. BERRIES, said, that it was impossible to state with precision, in an act of Parliament, how many or how few Branch Banks the Bank of England should be com- pelled to maintain; and he therefore declined interfering in the matter. The Committee then divided : for the;:' resolution, '214; against it, 1s6; Ministerial majority, 58.

The third resolution was then proposed ; and

A conversation ensiled respecting the repayment of the 3,500,0004 part of the debt due from the Government to the Bank. Lord At- THORP maintained that the Government would gain by the operation; and that it was better to take the present opportunity of paying part of the debt while the Funds were high, and the money could be borrowed at a low rate of interest.

Sir ROBERT PEEL remarked, that by reducing the debt of Govern- ment to the Bank, the security of the 'latter would be (limit ished, just at the time when it was proposed to extend the circulation f its notes indefinitely. He also wished to know what the Bank htd formerly paid for the renewal of their Charter ; and what was the priveiple upon which the present bargain was concluded.

Lord ALTHORP, after stating some particulars respecting the bargains made at former renewals of the Bank Charter, said, Before any correspondence had taken place betweeti the Governor of the Bank and Government, he stated what his intentions were. The capital of the Bank was 17,000,00o/. ; and its profits, divided among the proprietors, were 1,1164,00U, Avhich he did not consider a very large amount of profit. He pro- posed to reduce the funded capital, which was l4,500,0001., to 11,000,000/., and that the dividend should be 8 per cent. on the whole capital if the Bank. The proposal he then made he did not consider at all unfair; )et the Bank Directors said that flow could nut accede to it. However, he cm sidered that the amount the Bank was to pay for the renewal of its Chart,T w; s of far less consequence than that the system of banking should be placed on a nun' prin- ciple. He had then to consider how a new bank was to he est:WE:lied, with a capital of somewhat about 10,000,000/. and how much it could alltrd to do the business of Govetument for. Ile kind that it could not be managi d so cheaply as at present, and such a bank could not afford to pay more than 6 per cent. by way of dividend.

In short, he found that it was cheaper to make the present bargain; and he did not think he had been outwitted. (Laughter.) Air. BARING said, that the Bank had the better of the bargain very decidedly. He particularly alluded to their pretence of having lost 147,000/. per annum by lending capital to Government at ;3 per cent., when it appeared that the greater proportion of their capital invested in other securities only yielded them the same interest.

The third resolution was then agreed to, and the House resumed.

On the reading of the order of the day, on Wednesday, for the House resolving itself into Committee, Mr.flianalas asked Lord Althorp, if it were true that he intended to postpone the consideration of the resolutions relative to the establish- ment of joint stock companies ?

Lord ALTHORP replied, that as he found the opposition to that part of the plan, from the country bankers and others, was stronger than he had anticipated, be was compelled to withdraw them. His inability to carry them through the House was his sole reason for doing so ; for his opinion remained the same as before. He also stated, in answer to questions from Mr. HERMES, MT. BARING, and Sir J. WaorrEsatA-, that he could not withdraw the legal tender resolution, nor the proposed alteration of the Usury-laws. The power to prevent the establishment of joint stock banks of issue within sixty-five miles of London, would likewise be continued to the Bank.

The House then went into Committee ; and the fourth resolution, which fixes the compensation to be paid to the Bank for managing the public debt and accounts, at the same rate as that now paid, subject to the annual reduction of 120,060/., was read.

Air. CLAY moved as an amendment to it, that the remuneration now received by the Bank for such services should cease, and that they should be gratuitously performed in future. Be went into some calcu- lations to prove that the Directors had very much understated the pro- fits of the Bank, arising from their connexion with the Government ; and contended, that they ought to manage the public debt gratuitously, in return for the advantages derived from that connexion. It was clear that Lord Althorp had been overmatched.

Lord ALTHORP maintained, that in consequence of the Bank capital being lent to Government at al per cent., the proprietors were not able to realize the profit upon it which they would obtain if they had it to lend on bonds and mortgages. He also made a statement to prove that the net profits of the Bank did not exceed 667,000/. per anmun, or about 6 per cent. on the capital. lie had endeavoured, by inquiring in the money-market, to ascertain the best terms on which a bargain might be made for the public ; and he had decided upon the one just concluded with the Bank. If the House did not approve of it, he, not the Bank Directors, should be visited with their censure.

Mr. M. ATTWOOD condemned the conduct of Lord Althorp in strong terms. He complained that the information before the House was very partial and imperfect; and moved that a Select Committee should be appointed to inquire into what was fitting to be paid on both sides, —on one side, to the Bank for managing the Debt; on the other, by the Bank for the exclusive privileges enjoyed by it.

Lord ALTHORP said, that as the House had already referred this question to the present Committee, that Committee could not delegate its authority to any smaller body.

Mr. Arrivoon then moved (Mr. Caar having withdrawn his amend- ment), that the Chairman should leave the chair and report progress.

Mr. ROBINSON opposed the motion. He would not consent to re- open the whole business. He did not think that Lord Althorp had been outwitted; but he had brought forward his proposition too late in the session, and laboured under the erroneous impression that the mat- ter must be settled before the session terminated.

Mr. WALLACE, on the whole, approved of the arrangement with the Bank.

Mr. Bannao thought the bargain an improvident one ; but would not consent to vote for the Committee, as that would be an invasion of the rights of the Executive Government.

Mr. POELETT Tnomsox said, that to refer the matter in question:to the decision of a Committee up stairs, would be a delegation of the powers of the Government, and would prove a pernicious precedent. The bargain, be admitted, was not so good a one as we had a right to expect ; but, under the circumstances, it was the best we could get. It was not through want of exertion that Lord Althorp had failed to make a better. The House had already decided that there should be only one bank of issue; and the Committee up stairs, if appointed, would be precluded from establishing another.

Sir HENRY PARNELL called the attention of the Committee to the extraordinary circumstances in which it was placed. It was going to vote a resolution which every member without exception who had spoken had described as inexpedient; and if the impolicy of paying so large a sum to the Bank was disapproved of within the walls of Parliament, it was still more strongly disapproved of out of doors.

It %could indeed be extraordinary if the Committee did not relieve itself from this situation ; for it was evidently ;ill owing to the obstinate iletermination of the Bank of England to have its own way. Ile felt nmeh disposed to support any

measure which would get the Committee out of tin' difficulty, and tel would do justice to the public by taking rare of their money. It was his opinion, that instead of the public paying 120,0001. a year to the _Hank, the Bank should pay Ile thought

no small sum to the public for the which it enjoyed.

that the llank should he min i red to ma n,, t he Debt Withuut any payment from the piddle, and that it might to pay considerable sum for the advantage. which it ettitted of ledtling the public looney. Ile hoped that the Committee would not mis;:t this Ile did not see any inconvenience in referring this imams to tile considenuion of a Conoai i 71, up stair,. Irt,tcad of leaving it to the settlement of t he Government in to hate, he thought that the Douse of Commons ought to mulertake the settleil.ent of it in the first instance. The only pos•-ible incoavenience that could by atrt :•;teident rcsult from referring this hargaiu to the eonsitIcration of a Committee 1.p ,t til,t---to which. lic the by, the Government ■ast se,sion had expres,ly pletl!H I it:totselves to refer it—was, that the settlement of it might be postponed ftot •L -list time. Ile would mule:lake to s;iv, that, if a Committee were appointc.1, it would not take them more than a week, certainly not more than a fortnight, to conduct the inquiry, amid to make their report. He concluded by sayings that he really SaW utu it iou ye tiicil Cc ti The COITImercial interests by letting the Bank Charter go on as at present fOr another year.

Mr. Gams: differed from Sir Henry Parnell : it was his decided opinion that much mischief would be the result if it were not settled during the present session. The bargain, however, was admitted on all hands to be unfiivourable to the public ; and the principles on which it had been made should be thoroughly investigated. At present, few members indeed knew any thing about them. The necessary inquiry might be made in a f 'ommittee, and there was time to receive its report before the close of the present session. lie should therefore vote for Air. Attwood's motion.

Mr. M. Avrivotm again advocated the appointment of a Committee.

Lord A LTIMae denied that any satisthctory arrangement could be made with the Bank by means of a negotiation conducted by a Select Committee.

Mr. LYALL said, that the appointment of a Committee would be injurious to the commercial interests of the country. Ile had con- versed with many persons in the City respecting the terms of the re.. newal of the Bank Charter; and in almost every instance they were considered reasonable and fair; but within a few days a new light seemed to have burst upon men's minds.

Tilt'. CLAY Said, that all his arguments remained untouched. The items in the Bank account were gross delusions. He maintained that he had shown ample cause why the Howe! could not, and ought not, with justice to its constituents, confirm the bargain without further inquiry.

Lord JOHN Rt.-salmi, asked, whether it was intended that the Select Committee should usurp the functions of the Chancellor of the Ex- chequer ?

Colonel TORIIENS asked Lord .Tohn Bussell, whether it was proper that the Chancellor of the Exchequer should usurp the functions of the House?

The Committee then divided : for Mr. Attwood's motion, SS; against it, 176; Ministerial majority, $S.

The fourth resolution was then agreed to; as were also the fifth and seventh ; the sixth amid eighth being postponed. The House then re- sumed, and the report was ordered to be received on Thursday.

The report on the resolutions was accordingly brought up, on Thurs- day, by Mr. VERNON SMITH ; and a bill femaled thereon was ordered to be brought in.

The bill was brought in on Friday, by Mr. Iney, and read a first time. The day for the second readieg was not named.

72. Es' Is:ma CuanTee. The resolutions for the TerICWal of

East India Company's Charter. which had previously received the sanction of the House of Commons, were brought hut ore the House of Lords on Friday, by the. Marquis of LaNsuosaas, in a speech of great length. His Lordship went into numerous details in explana- tion of the Government plan, which were for the most part repetitions of' the statements of Mr. Grant in the House of Commons.

Lord Eiaa:Nsortotaat and the Duke. of Wattostsrox made some strictures upon the mode in which the business had beer conducted by Government; and objected to several parts of the proposed measure, especially to the breaking up of the Company as a umbra; Corpora- tion, the increase of authority intended to be conferred on the Go- vernor-General, and the project of employing natives in judicial and other employments of trust. The resolutions, however, were agreed to, without a division.

3. SLAVERY. Mr. STANT.LY has brought in a bill for the abolition of slavery. It was read a first time hist night ; and is to be read a second time on Wednesday next.

4. Basil Criciten REFORM. OH Thursday, at the early sitting, Lord Auroone moved the order of the day for the consideration of the Irish Church Temporalities Bill ; but on the suggestion of Mr. 'WYNN, in order to relieve the Speaker, the bill was recommitted, with an un- derstanding that after the business was concluded in the Committee, the report should bs immediately received. The House then being in Committee, Mr. LLOYD moved, as an amendment to the third clause, that the three Commissioners appointed by the King in Council should be lay- men. Lord Arsnioar and Sir Roamer Prsa opposed, Mr. SHLIL and Sir S. WHALLEY supported the amendment. The Committee divided, and negatived it, by a majority of 14t) to 47.

Air. W. EVANS proposed an amendment to the 50th clause, to re- duce the income of all future Bishops of Derry to 6,000/. per annum. Lord ALTHORP opposed, and Mr. SHEIL and MT. O'CONNELL sup- ported the amendment. The House adjourned before the discussion was brought to a close, with the understanding that it was to be re- newed the next day.

On Friday accordingly, in the morning sitting, the discussion was resumed; when, after a few remarks from Mr. STANLEY and Sir ROBERT INGLIS, the amendment was negatived, and the clause agreed to.

The several clauses to the 89th were then passed without opposition.

Mr. Fosx proposed the insertion of a new clause, the effect of which would be to compel the incumbent of a benefice, the annual in- come of which amounted to 590/., to pay his curate not less than UK per annum.

Some discussion, between Mr. SHEIL, Mr. STANLEY, Alr. Suaw, and Sir 11. VIVIAN, arose upon this motion. It was finally negatived, by 130 to 35.

The other clauses, down to the 114th, were agreed to, with some vethal amendments. In the evening sitting, the remaining clauses were agreed to, with some unimportant amendments ; and the bill was ordered to be read a third thou on Alonday.

5. In Nu TITHES. On AIonday, O'CONNOR DO N presented a pes town from the inhabitants of a parish in Rosemnmon county, who complained of being cheated by their clergymen into paying a sum of

3121. pet annum for tithes, which was more by I-171. than he had agreed to take. The clergyman had contrived to vilest this by charging the tithe agreed upon (a•hish was Is. mad. per acre) upuu the actual acreage of the county, instead of the acreage put dowmi in the county-rate book, upon which the calculation ll'aS made at the time of the agree- ment between himself and ins parishioners.

On Tuesday, Mr. Baanox proposed two resolutions- Ist, That the tithe system in Ireland has been, the fruitful source of misery

and (Tines mnel should be totally extinguished. rl ly, that a land-tax ought to be sidistituted for the payment of the present incumbents, and for the support of the Protestant Establishment, and such other purposes of general utihty as the Legislature may deem necessmy.

Ile maintained at sonic length the necessity of altering the present system ; and stated in the course of his speech, that out of :2,100 parishes in Ireland, there were 649 without any resident Protestant clergyman or any Protestant church.

Mr. LITTuerox thought that there was no occasion for the present motion, and would meet it by moving the previous question.

Undoubtedly he would ha the hmst man to defend the propriety of upholding an establishment awl its expenses iii parishes where clergymen had no congrega- tions, as this would in itself be one of the first grounds to be seized by its ene- mies for making an attack on the whole Church. (Luta cheers.) With respiet to tithe property— lie admitted that it was a fair question whether it sltould remain as tithe ; but no individuals had a right to that which. belonged to the Church, or, if not to the Church, belonged, as all men must admit, to the State. (" Hear, hear !" 7 fed/ Or(.n-,Mt ihr iiiwz heneiteS. ) That property was not the property of individmds, and the law which protected it must be asserted and maintained. Mr. O'CONNOR supported the resolution.

Mr. STANLEY de ti'D d cd the conduct of Ministers in regard to the ineasmnes they had adopted for ameliorating and finally extinguishing the tithe system in Ireland.

Air. O'CoNNet.t trusted, that in future Mr. Stanley would be ex- cluded from all share in the Government of Ireland. ( Cheers front the .b.hh n.edubers, echoed iii derision from all parts V Me House, especially the Ministefial benches.) Ireland was not a colony or a province, but mut integral part of the empire ; amid therethre lie trusted that Mr. Little- ton o ii Id take his department into his in keeping, and not give it up to the management of the Colonial Secretary. If he under- stood Mr. Stanley, he nutintained that it was right to keep up a Pro- testant establishment at the expense of a Catholic people. While this was done, the Irish people never would or ought to be content.

Mr. LEFROY said, that Dinettes' twentieths of the land of Ireland was in the hands of Pmtestants, and that in point of fact they sup- ported their own church.

Lord Ai:moats with unusual warmth, defended Mr. Stanley from the attack made upon him by Mr. O'Connell.

Mr. SHELL contended that Mr. O'Connell's observations on Mr. Stanley were perfectly justified. AU Mr. Stanley's measures for the removal or ecclesiastical grievances had met with signal and disastrous failure. The Tithe Bill would please neither the landlords nor the peasant' y. Mr. Some said, that duriog the last thirty years, the in+ads of the Eetablisbed Church had caused upwards of .500 (diuretics to be built, and placed ministers in them. He contended that tithes had been paid with great willingness in Ireland tiil Mr. O'Connell and his spiritual advisers had commenced their system of agitation.

Mr. Last BERT denied that tithes had ever been paid willingly by the Catholics. The system had not been improved since the accession to oflice of the present Ministers.

Colonel CONOLLY would ask Mr. O'Connell, who was so angry that Protestant clergymen should receive emolument for doing nothing, what he had done to entitle himself to the 12,000/. per annum which he exacted from the Irish people?

Mr. liom. called Colonel Conolly to order for this personality.

'Fite SPEAK ER said, that Colonel Comity was out of order certainly; but he feared it was now too late to interfere to prevent such attacks. Colonel CONOLLY repeated the personality. Mr. O'CONNELL re- pelled it : the money raised for him was no exaction. Mr. Halmos; briefly replied, and the resolutions were withdrawn.

G. remit EnrearioN. Lord Beenavvet, on Monday, presented a petitioe from the General Assemby of the Church of Scotland against the ;overnment plan of education thr Ireland. A conversation ensued, in which the Earls of RODEN, HA DDINGTON, and WICKLOW, Lord MELBOURNE, and the Duke of [VeatesesTox took part, respecting the sentiments expressed in the petition. Lord Metamounxis stated his re- gret that such a petition should have emanated from such a body; and observed, that among the minority who voted against its adoption, some of the most distinguished names in the Scottish Church might be found.

7. FecToav BILL. Lord ASHLEY moved, on Friday, that the Ilouse should resolve into a Conunittee on thus bill.

Lord AITHORP opposed the motion.He was of opinion, that to at- tempt 0 pass the bin through a Committee of the whole House, was not the way to arrive at a satisfactory settlement of the question. He would therefore propose to refer the bill to the consideration of a Select

Committee; which he did not think would occasion delay, but lead to its being more expeditiously passed. He thought the bill, in its present state, would operate injuriously on our manufacturing interests. In the present excited state of the country, he was aware that Parliament would be obliged to interfere for the protection of children agefinst un- due labour and severity : but the bill carried this protection to adults, which was going much too far. He strongly objected to the clause which 'rendered the master-manufacturer liable to have a verdict of manslaughter given against hint in ease of any fatal accident from his machinery. He thought that sufficient time had not been allowed for the consideration of the Report of the Commissioners; and concluded by moving, as an amendment to Lord Ashley's motion, that the bill be referred to a Select Committee, with instructions that no children who

had not entered their fourteenth year should be allowed to Nvork more than eight hours a day ; that provision should be made for time education

of the children out of working-hours; and that a system of inspection

should be established which would insure the execution of the tlFe.

Lord A sit:ex Nvas convinced, that if his bill were sent up stairs to a Select Committee, it would come back so altered that he should not

know it agaiu. He (lid not object, certainly, to the proposal that chil- dren under the age of thirteen should not be allowed to work more than eight hours a day, nor to a provision for the compulsory L.:titration of the children. But he thought that Lord Althorp sheuld have read the

Report of his own Commission before he objected to the provisions in time bill respecting accidents .from machinery. Time bill, it seemed, was to be scouted out of the House like a mad dog, and sent up stairs. lie contended that it was horrible to subject a young woman of fourteen or sixteen to fourteen or sixteen hours labour in al'factory. The medical

evidence suffiviently proved that. The amendment would put time mea- sure out of the jurisdiction of the House. Did Lord Althorp think that his proposition would satisfy the complainants or the country ? On the contrary, it would create positive and incontrolable disgust. (A Member—" Strong languaye! ") He meant to use strong language ; and, with all deference to the honourable member, he would use whet language he pleased. He concluded by again stating his determination to oppose the amendment, and imploring the House to set the question at rest.

Sir S. Wuara..sec said, that the Commissioners had gone to work in an unconstitutional and un-Brilislc manlier, by taking the evidence witlt closed doors; they had acted like partisans of the manufiteturers, rather than inquirers after truth. Laws were made to protect brutes from cruelty, and the human race should also be protected. Ile trusted that the House would speedily go into a. Committee on the subject.

Sir Roimette INcaas opposed the amendment. Ile said that the youthful hutnan animal, particularly the female animal, was not capable of working thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, or sixteen hours a day. He hoped that the continuance of this gross and brutal outrage on suffering, humanity would not longer be permitted.

Lord Aloeemern advocated the appointment of a Select Committee.

Mr. O'CoNNEtas said, delay was delusion; there had been enough of delay, and they ought to put an end to delusion. The mall with money or friends could claim the protection of the Chancellor : it was the duty of the House to be the Universal Chancellor, and take care of the factory children who had no money. Be wished protection to extend to the age of twenty-one, or at any rate to eighteen. Ile was for going, at once into Committee that night.

Mr. BROTHERTON said, that adults as well as children required the protection of the Legislature, as the only means of preventing them from being overworked. He knew himself what the hardships of a factory life were. He had worked in a factory till his sixteenth year, and he felt the deepest sympathy for the poor children ; and although raised to the high honour of being a member of that House, he never could forget his station : he felt much for their sufferings, and must stand by his order. ((Jheers.)

Mr. Ilmsr said, the provisions of Lord Ashley's bill were of such a nature as would take the business out of the hands of respectable manufacturers and transfer it to omen who were less scitmpulous and. humane. The bill was a specimen of that legislative Quixotism which. siogled out particular abuses as objects of attack, careless of the sweep- ing mischief that might be inflicted in the attempt to remedy them.

Mr. HUME thought all restrictions on the manufactures of the country, in the shape of duties, wages, or hours of labour, injurious. But the case of childrem who could not speak for themselves was all exception. The bill ought to be publicly discussed, clause by clause, in the whole House ; more especially after the charges made against time Commissioners, whom he believed to be all honourable men.

Mr. M. ATTWOOD opposed the amendment.

Mr. G. W. Woon said, that if young women under fifteen were in- cluded in the restriction, the consequence would be, that married women would be employed in their places; a consequence prejudicial to the morals and physical condition of posterity.

Lord STotemoNT had no doubt Lord Althorp's motion was intended to throw out the bill.

Mr. PormErr THOMSON denied that time motion was intended to cause delay; and maintained that the question would be more speedily and satisfactorily settled by referring the bill to a Select Committee.

Mr. CORBETT said, that this was a contest between Mammon and Mercy, and be hoped Mercy would prevail. Mr. STANLEY said, the object of the amendment was to have the provisions of the bill discussed with more knowledge, temper, and • leisure, than were likely to be brought to the discussion io a Committee of the house. Anil that was called sacrificing Mercy to Mammon !

Mr. HARDY said, that the Commissioners visited the factories when every preparation had been made by their masters to create a faro, - able impression. They should have gone without notice in the depth of winter.

Mr. SLANEY, having full confidence in .Lord Althorp's sincerity, supported the amendment.

The House divided ; for Lord Althorp's amendment, 141; against,

it 164; majority against Ministers, 23. The announcement of the numbers was received with deafening cheers.

The House then went into a Committee on the bill ; Sir R. balms in the chair. A short conversation took place: when it was arranged that the Chairman should report progress and sit again on Monday.

S. NEW HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. Huata, on Tuesday, moved the two following resolutions.

1st, That the present House of Commons 'lid not afford adequate accommoda- tion, due regard being had to the health atui convenience of members, and the despatch of public bminess; and that it was therefore necessary to erect a new

be -Illy, That a humble :address be presented to his 31ajestv, praying- that his :Iftjesty would be graciously pleaseil to direct a new House of' Gino:ions to be erected; Parliament being prepared to place at his IlIajesty's disposal a sum Of money sufficient to defray the expeme of such building.

He contended, that the best accommodation should be afforded to members of Parliament to enable them to suoport the fatigues of their arduous duty. The suggestion of a new liouse Me: not a thought of the present day. In 1739, nearly a century ago, and beftmo the acces- sion of the Irish nembers, the want of room was eoinplained of ; and Government had thought it necessary to get the opinions of arehitects as to the best mode of remedying the defeet, but nothing had been thew. The estimates formerly subtnitted to Mr. Speaker Onslow. emontited to 55,000/. ; but it would be found that 'half that sum, Or little more, would be sufficient to erect a suitable building. The most rigid ecouto- mists would not object to votiog so small a stun for such e purpose. Certainly those members who had voted 600,000/. fur building up and pulling down Buckingham Palace could not object to it. In the pre- j sent House, there was only convenient room for about :350 members : business therefore could not be properly transacted \dim live or six hundred members were present.

As an example of the inconvenience of the House, lw need only point out what had taken place that evening at five o'clock. The pressure of going- iiut awl coming in at that hour was unworthy of iiny assembly. Ile repeated, thitt the shoving out and shoving in that then took place was disgraceful. (Laughter.)

The Committee had little doubt as to the propriety of building anew House : the question was as to the site of it.

It wits recommended, and in this lie concurred, that the new House should be built due east of the present house, and the present House might serve as a lobby, or other convenient appendage to the new House, and be of rvat use in facilitating, public business. It would have one great advantage—that of

time in dividing, as the House might then be emptied by folding-doors, an'd counted in three minutes. It was part of the plan, should the House accede to it, that it should be carried into execution by a responsible Commission, consist- ing of five or seven persons; for a Committee of that House could never see it properly carried into effect. He should propose that a sum not less than 35,000/. be placed at the disposal of his Majesty for the purpose of erecting a new House of Commons.

Colonel DAviEs seconded the first, and opposed the second resolu- tion. He was ashamed of the proceedings of the House ; where mem- bers were in the habit of talking, coughing, snoring, and lying about in the most disgraceful manner. He approved of the project of building ' a new House, but thought that the site proposed was injudicious, and inconvenient to the great majority of members.

Mr. PETER and Sir M. W. Moats objected to changing the site of the House; the latter also thought the accommodation sufficient.

Mr. WARBURTON said, that if they would attend to. not what was spoken publicly- in the House, but to the real honest opinions of mem- bers expressed in private, they would find that the present House was considered most unhealthy : he was never himself two hours in it with- out undergoing bodily torture.

Lord Alaritone thought it wrong to attribute to the House of Com- mons the ill health which arose from late hours and constant attend- ' ance. It was a question whether an increase in the size would not lead to an increase of noise. Ile should vote against the motion.

Sir Ronan. PEEL would not condemn the present House upon the imperfect report of the Committee.

The report of the Chairman (be knew not who the Chairman was, aml he meant no disrespect to him) was most imperfect and disereditable. It was ii unjust to lay all the faults of the members on the building. It appeared that there was a great deal of talking, incessaot buzz, much coughing, and very I:a-- graceful attitudes; but, of course, as they were the master spirits of the age, the Ilouse of Commons and not the members must bear the blame!

Mr. lit err:, in reply, complained of Sir Robert Peel's childish cri- ticism ; and observed that the Committee, whose instructions were to make inquiries, had called in and obtained plans from twelve of the first architects in London, and that without one farthing expense to the public.

The House divided: for the motion, 70; against it, 154; :Ministe- rial majority, 84.

9. Busocass TIIE HottSE. At the early sitting on Thursday, Lord A urnOtte proposed that three mornings in the week should be de- voted to the Orders of the 1)ay and the business actually in a state of proeress. and that the other two should be devoted to Petitions.

Air. WYNN suggested, that Government should endeavour to carry measures of importance one by one—to finish one before they began another.

Lord Aa-rtione concurred in this suggestion, and Ilad thought at the beginning of the session that it would be desirable to adopt this plan.

Mr. O'CoNNErt, said, that if Lord Althorp had really held that opinion at the beginning of the session, and had expressed it, the House would most readily have agreed with him. Ile %WV much approved of the proposed arrangement, and hoped that it would be adhered to. Sir Roufarr Iteafts did not think that it worth! shorten the session, or fit- eilitate the progress of business.

10. REDUCTION OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. Mr. BUCKINGHAM moved, on Tuesday, for " A t4elert Committee to consider the practicability of progressively reducing the National Debt, by its conversion into terminable annuities at gradually diminishing rates of interest, so as to lessen its burden every year ; and to de- termine the best mode of assessing the property and income of the kingdom to meet the expense of such conversion; and to form at the same time a surplus rereune fund, which should enable the Parliament progressively to repeal those

imposts Which bear most heavily on the agricultural, mauafacturing, awl ship- ping interests of the Coutary."

He explained and advocated his plan at some length, but amidst the unceasing din of a totally inattentive audience. Ile proposed that the National Debt should be converted into a national annuity fund, to be terminable in a hundred years; so that the childn re of the next or pre- sent generation perhaps might lie relieved f'rom its burden. This fund should bear a rate of interest commencing at five per cent, and be re- duced each year a shilling- per cent. for a hundred yeara, \viten principal and interest would 'become extinct barether. He would raise the sum required to pay this additiumal rate of interest, above what was IlOW paid en the Debt, hy a tax on intanue and property.

Lord A gnome said, that this would increase the present Ian dens of the country, as be understood Mr. Buckingham, by eighteen millions per annuli!.

Mr. BUCKINGHAM said, only by live millions:

Lord Ai:tamer objected to raise additional taws to that amount. Mr. Conners. said. the child in its cradle w:- not hound to pay the debts of its father, jut ti whom it derived no property to pay them ; still less were the industrious classes in this vountry hound to pay a debt which Wilti not contracted by their fathers, but by a Parliament which (meld not to have sat, and over whiell they hail Ito control. He 110Stile to a graduated property-tax : the inau of a thousand acres ought to pay a thousand times as much as the unam of one aere, but not more. What the people justly complained of was, not that the HAL did not pay own- in pismortion than the poor, but that they paid fif- teen, twenty, thirty, or forty times less. Mr. HaavEy could not conceive by what rule a graduated property- tax—a system which NVOttld compel men to contribute to the support of the burdens of the state mere according to their means than they now did—could be termed a system of confiscation. There was plenty of property to pay the interest of the Debt, which was an annuity settled as a mortgage upon all the land in the kingdom, The rich landholders indeed would be delighted to sponge oil the Del a, and encourage the Radicals to propose such a proceeding; just as tiny were really for the abolition Of tithes, in order to put them into their own pockets. In- stead of this, he hoped they would tot as was usual in other cases of mortgage—that, failing to pay the interest of the Debt, they would walk out, and let the Jews and money-lenders take possession of their bards, abbeys, parks, and mansionhouses. Mr. HUME, Colonel EVANS, lInjor REAUCLERK, and Mr. MAN- WELL, spoke a few words in support of the motion, and the House divided : for Mr. Buckingham's motion, 38; against it, 57; Ministerial majority, 19.

11. LoNnox UNIvEasurv CHARTER. Mr. TooKE, 011 Thursday, moved an whiress to the King, praying his Arajesty to grant a Royal rharter of incorporation to the University of London. He stated, that in 1830, the Duke of Somerset, Alta John Smith, end Dr. Lush- ington, had petitioned for a charter ; and that a draft of one Daus actu- ally prepared and approved of by the Crown Lawyers ; it was en- grossed, and %vent through every form butt that of receiving the Great Seal, at an expense in fees of :IDS/. It was then stopped, in conse- quence of a private application front the University of Oxford, and a public one front Cambridge. The Lo:olon University was now, after having experienced nnich opposition and several reverses, in a lurosper- Otis condition. It was not wished to confer degrees in Divinity, hut in other branches of the arts. There was no desire to interfere with the peculiar privileges of Oxford or Cambridge.

Mr. Jolts Romitax seconded the motion.

The single condition on whieh such charters ought to be granted was, that tile iii' I ies asking them were capable of fulfilling the purpose of giving youth the proper education. The London University had completely fulfilled that condi- tion. It had established gum,' regulations, chosen avemmilislual and :Mk teach- ers, and was therefore ernitled to the charter. IIis rtlajestv's Ministers were favouralde to granting the I 'diversity iine; iota the llouse Inol heard from Mr. Tooke, that one was on the point of being granted, and was stopped in the el,,venth hour. There was no other iii stmle to it than the mete interposition

Dxford and Cambridge ; and. without adverting to the many objectionable COMIeetCd. With those Universities as a means of edurati mg youth, he • might say that they had at least one obv it in defect—they were exclusive. Of all monopolies, time Monopoly of education was the most perni- cious ; and if that were the vese, why should any body of men have a monopoly of those honours and rewards which were a stinutilus to learning.

Lord AT.TI10111, recommended Mr. Tooke to withdraw his motion. 'The subject was under the consideration of Government. The mere granting of a charter was of little consequence ; the important con- sideration was on what terms it should be granted. If the motion were pressed, he certainly should not be justified in voting egainst it. MT. WYNN and Sir Bormer !sums opposed, :Mr. ST.ANhy, Mr. STRierr, and Mr. A Inmetuomnv supported the motion ; which, how- ever, on the suggestion of Alm. HumE, was withdrawn by Mr. Tool: ta upon the ender-tanding that the Government was favourable to granting

the chanter. -

1-2. UNIVERSITY OATHS. COlonot WILLIAMS. On Thursday, made the following motion ; which, after a short conversation, was agreed to.

" That the Vice-Chancellors of the Universities of Oxford and I. %unlit-id:4e be directed to communicate to this Home copies of the tvligious tests rnIurctl of persons on :ohnissimi into the Universities, or it the film! of taking am- degree; as also the dates of the original inipm,itiou of thi ,. teqs, and at

gestion and by whose authority they were then imposed, and what alterations they have undergone since their original imposition, with the dates of those altetanons.

1:3. JEwialt Dts.f MOTIFS BILL. The report on this bill was brought up on :Monday, by Alia RONERT GRANT, and was agreed to with the amendments. It is to be read a third time next Wednesday.

14. TRADE WITH PORTUGAL. Mr. Gaol.]: presented a petition on Tuesday, from the merchants of London trading to Oporto, compfain- ing of the great losses incurred he them by the continuance of the pre- sent struggle in Portugal. English property to the value of one mil- lion sterling was deposited in Villa Nova, and exposed to the chances of war from tile batteries on earh side of the river. Cannon-balls were fired at and shells burst in their wine-magazines. They had svished to get their wine shipped to this comitry, but in consequence of the diffi citifies interposed by Don Miguel, that could not be done.

Lord PALMERSTON said, that the subject of this petition had no escaped the attention of Ministers.

In all the late transactions with Portuail, he felt that they had to deal with a

Government more accessible to fin ce thmt argument. Ile deehweii his opinion, that the manner in which the war had been carried on by Don Aliguel against the town of Oporto, was by a s, stead of hostilities almost unprecedented in the history of civilized nations. lie bad cart ied on a most 11,:elef.i attack upon the persons of men, svlunen, and chili en, for no other purpose than the destruction of private property. The Iiiiverilim•nt had, luitvever, declared to the authorities of Doo Aliguel, that th,:y held l'ottogal responsible for all the damage that might ensue from not sufLoing British subjects to remove their goods from that country.

The petition was then laid on the table.

Li. ASSESSED TAXES. Colonel EVANS, on Wednesday, presented a petition from the parishioners of St. James's, for the repeal of tle!

House and Window Taxes. That parish paid a larger amount ot Assessed Taxes than all Manchester, Birmingham, and Leeds, put to- gether. lie made several statements respecting the distressed condi- tion of London tradesmen.

There was a gd iii, fall.ng off in the tra.le and profits of these classy', of per-

sons. Several retail Iii it 113(1 (leetilled, that whereas they were formerly in the receipt of lisd. a tveek, t hey did not HMV ri•,•,•ive wore Omit frond 10/. to 1...d/.

Another pi mif of the the working it was hi he -yea in the large nunth.1* it 1m:wet:pied iu.,ui.' ii the Aletroptilis. II • tuMerstood that fiat!

it wa, vciy titivuihi tic Lin possession of a how,iii l•':eet Street or Clwal,,dc; now ila‘ro va•re in WI t. , i daces ,i•veral ;mild not IA:let."e:VeIl ill tie' iii ili cit dt. licorge, ilia rental of which was there iv is

of rental wholly ittiorctudied. In the 1, holy it the .1!..ttropolis, iii toalerstts,i

there were more lit ii tt hen,- tr,oided. had wade ,tool• izokitiri,- Iii the pup,- •; '..•r there had tiuhi any tilting tuil ni the value of how,- r.ir capital, anti he had ascertained that

t he failing uuI I t 1 Il per cent.

Pa petition, on .•,,, tiperativo

and 111l'iltiltCiuulul it II revisi:iii cit tile I to:d COM-

plainin, Of Ilo• Il• •: • •- • !ie of timir trade.

T000as .1-rriaie.• add, he tuccihcl liv 1,i.. life that a elienge in the monetary system, ti,•• introduction of It sia..u. stan(lard, telul the

issuing, of one pull . would relieve the e e• makers.

17. SINECURES. Air. riVI ii /i), 011 Wednesday, presented a petition from Fileshire for the aholitioll of Sinei•IlleS.

SPRINC. RICE sulul, he Wished that members would inforin tio•in- eel% ea on the subject of sitieceres !wanc making general complaint:

against them. Ile could allely say, there Wag. Mit One niirei_:Iilated

sinecure in the countia- at this moment. If there was, NI I;y 110L 110110■11.ilb1e members bring them before the House ?

La. Cotteon.yriox Constissioa. Ali address to tile laing le iip! it Commission to inquire ;alto the state of 'Municipal I arporei iima Diebold, Wales, and was (Leveed to on Thursilae oe the mo- tion of Mr. Vietatie s;orra.

Pa !ARAL, Cora rs Br • The report Oil /la,: bill was nieriet (I lit

the House of lambs on Thursday, and the third readipg !...ed tar

Tuesday next. •

20. Law tie are:" am> Celan-roe. The hi!' for n't•,' •• Iie- prisonment for Dela was read a Si.molld HMV ill the • oi :o::;,!.ons on 1Vednesday, without di:wit,sion I tht. 1i:1:en in tin.

Committee. •

21. SitER1FFs' ACCOUNTS. Mr. la _BAILIN.; in a hill to

provide for the more speedy and satisfactory sett: 'mem- Slieritrs' accounts. It was read a tit St time on .Monday, and onIered io be read a second time mu the 10th July.

22. Seitrreit Buitotts Boa.. Several new clauses - . ; .lIt it to this bill on IVednesday, on the motion of Mr. JEFFREY, the Lund aiai vacate ; and it. was ordered to be read a, third time on Alotillay.

23. Seoacit Beneits l'OLICE BILL. Jim the ComillitOm on this bill, on Wednesday, Mr. GlI.I.ON proposed two itinembeeele, a hiell wt•nt tu establish the ancient boundaries of Hamilton as the ii,i111!arie,; for the purposes of this bill. 'Die firet was rejected hy a 1117:i0lity of 73 to 27; the second by 42 to 27. The report was then ordered to be re- ceived on Thursday.

24. SCOTCH LAW lteroam. The Future Eatails Bill, the Heirs of Entail Bill, and the Bankrupts Bill, were withdrawn by the Loan ADVOI. .VrE, on Wednes.lay, till next session.

Onsmtvastee oc Tim SABBATH IN SCOTLAND. Sir .Asintrar Ariaa has brought in a bill to explain and amend the laws relating to this subject. It was read a first time on Monday, and ordered to a second reading on next Tuesday week.

26. EDINBURGH ANNUITY TAX Bi ta..i 1 PI

_ WaS withdrawn on lirednesday, till next session.

27. l'oatee SPIES. Upon the motion of Lord A lattonr, WilO ex- pressed his strong disapprobation of the spy system, a Committee was appointed, on Monday, to inquire into the conduct of l'opay, the Policeman charged with having endeavoured to excite some of the in- habitants of Camberwell to seditious and treasonable practices, and with other misconduct.

Mr. CORBETT, who brought the subject forward in an early part of the evening, withdrew it, upon an assurance from Lord Althorp that the Committee should be appointed.

Mr. Hawas stated his belief that the charges against the Policeman could be substantiated by credible witnesses.

('ALTIIORPE STREET AFFRAY. Lord ALTHORP, on Friday, gave notice that he should move, on Tuesday next, for the appointment of a Select Committee to inquire into the circumstances attending the affray in Calthorpe Street.

29. THE DUBLIN' STEAM PACKET CO3IPANY'S BILL. This bill was read a third time on Tuesday, without opposition, on the motion of MI. O'CONNELL. Lord SANDON proposed- some amendments, which were adopted, and inserted in the bill by way of rider.

- ' TUE THELLUSSON PROPERTY. Lord Lys:mons-I' presented a bill, on Thursday, to ,drotd relief to the distressed members of the t late Mr. Thellusson's family. It appeared that the accumulation of the property, xvItich amounted to 23,939/. per annum at that gentleman's death, had only been about 4.,01. during twenty-nine years, in conse- ! gnome of the expense attending the conversion of his personal into real property, and the charges of management. The taxed costs in Chan- ! eery alone amounted to 100,0001., and other additional expenses were I about 76,010/. hi the mean time, the family of the testator were irt I great distress ; and the object of Lord Lyndhurst's bill was to enable the Court of Chancery to lease the accumulating property to do/ heads of the famly, in order that it might be managed for the benefit of the parties concerned.

I Lord SHAETESI:URY reminded Lord Lyndhurst, that as this was a I private bill, two of the Standing Orders of the House must be sus- . pended before it could be brought in, of which notice must be given. day. LYsoneasT then withdrew his bill, and gave notice that he should move the suspension of the Standing Orders in question the next I On Friday, Lord LYNDHURST moved the suspension of the two Standing Orders, that the bill might be read a first time.

I Lord Wy atoaao agreed that the case which Lord Lyndhurst sought to remedy was the hardest he ever heard of, but could not consent to ! suspend the Standing Orders.

, Lord EaDoN xvite very much startled at the statement made by Lord ! Lyndhurst, of the great expenses int•urred in the Court of Chancery in the menagement of this property: for as long 115 he WaS (ittitiethhun', lie hot/ iirCer //,'(//'il ceomplaiul .orptinsl and duirpes. lle referred to Lord Shaftesbury, to know Maher there was a precedent for the sus- pension of the Scantling Orders.

• : laird S A ET ES it 'ay" knew of only one case ; and hoped the on the I resent oecasion, the House \Wahl not establish so dangerous a prece- deet as the suspension of the Staialing Orders.

Lord BROU:allANI was perfectly aware that the officers of the Court of Chancery weft- not in the habit or complaining againq thines as they , stood. The Mi(ster in whose edam this cauee was, derived seVtli Or eight hundred per Milian) frOln the proecedings therein.

Lord LYNDHURST said, that the expenses of every kind, wiz!, emaill- gencies, would amount to nut much less than ;100,000/. Vet the charges were all regular ; and he therefore more particularly wished to put an end to them.

Earl GREY, the Duke of Hamra•roN, the Marquis Of LANSDOWNE, and the /hike of BUCKINGHAM, !Male a fl`W observations ; and the debate WaS adjourned to Thursday next.

31. Livia:Pool, CONSTITiENCY. Mr. Maas. PHILLIPS moved, on Thursdiaa, for the revival of the Committee to aupdre into the em•rupt loaetives of the Liverpool freemen, and to report to the I louse the re- sult of theh• inquiries.

M. L, NI; LE denied ti et a case of extensive and systematic cor- reption had been made out in tie evidence given before the late Com- mittee ; and therefore Ile would oppose tint motion.

! Mr. WAIHsURT0N said, that if it had ap,—(red that the Liverpool ire( men hail turned away from their iniquities, he would not vote for funher inquiry into the subject ; but as it was distinctly st•en 1/y the ,-,•idence that the electors were as prone to bribery as ever, he thought It C 'danniii tee should be reappointed. Many of the flea men at the last election came up to vott• in a state of intoxication ; others, when offered tile bribery oath, said " they'd be cursed if they took it," but oirered to swear that they had been -bribed. These men were strongly !treed It the canvassers of 1.ord Sandon and Sir Howard Itonglas to swear that they had not been bribed. He called upon the House to

these iniquities.

Mr. Horanswolern opposed, and Mr. LLOYD and Mr. BasixeamaN supported the motion.

Dr. NICHOL said, it would be ridiculous to proceed to the disfran- chisement of the Liverpool freemen, upon such evidence as was laid before the Committee. Who was to bear the expense of this inquiry, which had been hanging for three years over the heads of the Liver- pool freemen—the country, or a disappointed faction ?

Mr. WYNN said, that if Westminster were to be fried by the same test as was applied to Liverpool, it would be found not less open to the same charge. There was no amount of corruption in Liverpool greater than what was inseparable from large communities. Mr. O'CONNELL appealed to the House, in the name of honour and justice, to allow a further inquiry. The constitution of the magistracy was the chief matter to be inquired into ; and to that, be thought, attention ought to be especially directed'. If there had been no bribery at the last election, the only reason was that there was no can- didate who would bribe—to the infinite astonishment and grief of the worthy electors, who, poor innocents, thought the world must be at an ead when no man was to be found who would bribe them.

Lord SANDON denied that the allegations of bribery bad been sup- ported, and defied any one to prove that they had. And what was the extent of this "gross system of bribery," even if proved? Why, it appeared that there was a direct sum of 3/. as. ode alleged, with several other items amounting to the enormous sum of :34/. Here was a sum to over- hear a constituency of between four and five thousand! Oh, there was one other sum too alleged to have been expended in treating this constituency—six pounds twelve shilling!! The other allegation was, that the electors of Liver- pool were grievously given to receive bribes! Was it upon such grounds as these, mere allegations, that the House were to disfranchise such a constituency as that of Liverpool?

Colonel WILLIAMS had known Liverpool well for thirty-five years, and had never known more than one magistrate elected by pure means. He trusted the inquiry would lead to disfranchisement. He was him- self an elector, but rather than not have such a nest of bribery and corruption broken up, he would share the fate of disfranchisement with the rest.

yT w. The House divided: for the Committee, 166; against it, S4 ; major rit The result was received with cheers. The Committee was ap- pointed, and directed to report from time tat time to the House.

Lord SANDON then moved, that it be an instruction to the Commitlee to inquire into the last elections, beginning with IS:31.; to report on each election separately, whether there was general bribery or not, and the names of an parties guilty of bribery, or of being bribed.

A desultory conversation arose upon this motion ; which Mr. Wasox said was meant to stifle inquiry. Lord SANDON wished to withdraw it; but this was opposed by several members. Colonel Wool) then said he would move an adjournment. There appears to have been a good deal of noise and confusion. Mr. P. HOWARD was inaudible, from the laughter of the House. The Gallery was cleared for a divi- sion, but none took place.

31 BOROUGH or HERTFORD. On Monday, the issue of a writ for this borough was again suspended, on the motion of Mr. Beaxas, till the 16th July.

33. CARRICKFERGUS ELECTION. A Select Committee was ap- pointed on Thursday, on the motion of Mr. O'CoNNeef, to inquire in- to the circumstances of the late Carrickfergus election.