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0. CORPORATION REFORM.

Petitions were presented in the House of Commons, on Monday, in favour of the Bill to regulate Municipal Corporations; and several Members gave notice that they should propose alterations in the mea- sure during its progress through the Committee.

Alr. Pnaan moved the following resolution— "Thai, in the ephmm of the 111311,P, freemen of existing corporations, and those who are in the course or acquirim: freedom, awl their descendants, un4lit to be niaintained in the enjoyment of any rights, pi% ih . .. s, :111,1 properties ,chick they possess, or might acquire by virtue of charters limy in fume, ill SO for as the COultitIlla1114? of such rillist„ privileges, and properties, may not he found incomistent with the iuntitution of guild municipal government, and the popular control of corporate funds."

In support of his motion, Mr. Praed enlarged On the injustice of depriving persons ilio by birth or servitude were in expectation of ac- quiring certain corporate rights, of all the advantages thereunto belong- ing. lIe especially dwelt upon the alteration which would be made, by the ninth clause of the bill, in the Parliamentary constituency_ by the proposed measure, they were about to take from the children of free- men and those who had nearly served their apprenticeship, the right of acquit.- immg a vote at the election of Members of Parliament. It did appear to him an extraordinary circumstance, that in a bill having no reference to that light, its abolition should be thus decreed ; and be begged to point out an inconsistency in the conduct of Lord John Russell in this instance, as compared with the

course wh c

i.di he had pursued m a former occasion. in the first Reform hill, the privileges of freemen were wholly abolished : that bill was rejected by the House of Lords ; and when the noble lord introduced his amended bill, he said that one of the improvements which he then proposed, consisted in the eh culti- st:ince that it obviated the complaints urged against the former bill, to the effect that time successors of the present holders of the corporate right of voting at the election of Members of Parliament would be deprived of the enjoyment of it. Mr. Praed did not think it desirable to strike off so large a locution of their poorer yountryinen from the list of those possesing the right to return Aleniburs to Parli,tment. If any charge be brought against those persons, let a bill be brought in, stating that certain abuses existed which rendered it desirable that tha cot porde right of voting at the elections of Members of Parliament should not he continued.

Sir INIATTnivv RIDLEY seconded Mr. Praed's motion ; and expressed his disapprobation of the sneering terms %Odell were too often applied towards the freemen, as distinguished from the rated householders.

Mr. PirxED's resolution having been put from the Chair,

Lord JOHN Russia]. rose to offer his decided opposition to it; though all parties must agree with the latter part of it, which implied that Mr. Prim' was anxious to do nothing inconsistent with good it:U- lric:pal government. Lord John admitted that in the Reform Bill prolision was made for securing the privileges of the freemen ; but the I louse was not on that account precluded from sanctioning a bill which touched those privileges— The object of the Ihform Bill was to give the right of voting for Members of Parliament to certain persons; and it had been proposed in the Bust bill that that right should not extend beyond those who at the time exercised it. 'Phut bill was rejected by the House of Lords; and it became necessary to pepare amendments and alterations, nut such as it was thought would conduce to render the hilt most effectual, but such as it was thought might enable the promoters of the measure to obtain a majority on the second reading in the liouse of Lords. Some objections had been made to the first bill in that I louse' which he consi- dered as involving alterations most noxious to the principle uf the measure ; and those objections which involved alterations the least noxious acne obviated in the second hill j though he must say, that for his part lie would touch rather have adhered to the first Reform Bill without alteration, had it been possible to carry it in that state through the House of Lords, because he thought that it would have introduced a better reform than that. which was afterwards proposed. The question now was, whether in restoring and reforming the corporations, it WAS lit and expedient that provision should be made for continuing to the fret:pica their votes, with the privileges and properties which they now possessed. Lord John proceeded to argue, that the freemen were not generally worthy of possessing time franchise; and denied that they acquired it by virtue of their industry and honesty. They were in fact made free at the cost of candidates for seats in the House of Commons ; and Lord John read several statements which proved that the years of elec- tions were those in which by far the greater number of freemen ac- quired their freedom. The effect of the resolution would be to secure to persons who had misused it the power of misgovernment in certain. towns ; and to this he was totally opposed. Colonel SIRTHORPE said, that the freemen were as respectable as Lord John Russell, although they had no grants of land in Tavistock or seats in Covent Garden. Lord John Russell had hitherto crone down to the House like a schoolboy without his lesson, and exhibited nothing but a total ignorance of men and things. (1 luny and peculiar nroqn front the Ministerial benclas, which seemed to disconcert Colon! ;Sibthorpe.)

Mr. Roinssos: spoke in favour of Mr. Praed's resolution.

Mr. Hum: wished the House not to waste any more time ; but as it was agreed on all hands that a Corporation Reform Bill was to be passed, that the business should be regularly proceeded with in Com- mittee. On the ninth clause being proposed, the subject of Mr. Praed's resolution would necessarily be discussed. Lord SANDON said, that it appeared from Lord John Russell's speech, that a compromise or compact had been entered into with the Lords, which it was now proposed to break : it was proposed by a side- wind to alter the Reform Act; Lord John Russell had thrown off the

mask.

Lord Jose RUSSELL denied that he had thrown of the mask: his

expressions would not bear the construction put upon them. Lord SANoes; had only said that the clause in question, if carried, would have the effect of altering the Reform Act.

Lord STANLEY agreed with Mr. Home, that the bill should go into Committee : he should feel Obliged, if the resolution were pressed, to vote against it. It was undoubtedly true that the clause would alter the Reform Act ; but he reserved his opinion us to %vitt ther that al- teration should be made.

31r. Puma) withdrew his resolution, after waat bad fallen from Lord Stanley. And the I louse, on the motion of Lord JOHN RUSsELL, went into Committee; Mr. Bernal in the chair.

The first clause was agreed to ; the only point of dismission being one mooted by Sir Roemer PELL, whether the consent Of the Crown should not first be obtained, as the bill interkred it. several' points %vitt' the rights of the Sovereign. Lord .101IN Ressem. denied such inter- ference, and said thew was no occasion for tasking the censeut of the Crown.

The second and third clauses were agreed to ; after a few remarks from Mr. CARTER, Sir JOHN CAMITELL, and Sir la. PotLoca.

The fourth clause—which provides that the boundaries of certain boroughs should be the saint' as the Parliamentary boroughs, the ushers

to be s, ()ltd by the King in C'eauu the subject of a lengthened

discussion.

Sir Roemer Pere. contended strongly, that the boundaries of the municipal boroughs ought to be settled by Parliament. Ile intended to propose as rut amendment to a subsequent part Of the bill,

" That the metes and bounds of the several boroughs named in the second division of schedule A, and in the second division of s •hedule It, shall be settled and deseribell by an Act to be pie,sed ; which Act, %Olen passed, shall he con- sidered as much a part of the present Act as if it Were ineorporatud therewith."

Lord JOHN RCSSI:LL Said, that pinch delay would be the eousequence of deferring the settlement of the boundaries until an act to fie them could be passed by Parliament. The preparations for elections would beguile, on during the year or year told a half it would take Parliament

to settle the boundaries.

Lord DeoLev Secana said, the decision of the King in Council wass as they all knew, the decision of the Minister of the day. The present _Ministry was a very good one, but it might be succeeded by one not =n acted; and he would not intrust so much power to ally _Mi- nistry. If Sir Robert Peel did not press his renendment at the pre- sent lane, he would himself move one to the effect, that the exieting- bottedsvies shall remain " until they shall be otherwise settled by Act

of Parliament."

Sir Poemer Pere. declared that he did not wish to postpone the operation of the bill, and would consent that the existing municipal butnidaries should continue till settled by act of Parliament.

Lord Ilowtee said, that if the boundaries sere left in their present state, and the powers the bill gave to the Municipal Councils re- mained, the consequence would be that they would be taxing some districts for the exclusive benefit of others.

Sir JAMES GRAHAM supported the amendment, looking to constitu- tional principles alone.

Sir It. INarea and Sir I'. PoLLoce also supported the amendment.

Lord Jinx Rt-ssELL was willing to agree that the report of the Conellissioners appointed to inquire into the proper boundaries should be laid before the House, and that the boundaries settled by them should not be the boundaries if Parliament otherwise provided.

Sir Roinaer PELL said, that Parliament could alter the boundaries without any such reservation.

Lord Ilowwe spoke a few words, which were quite inaudible in the Gallery. A slight altercation ensued between hint and Sir Roamer PELL; in the course of which Lord Ilowiek was loudly cheered by the Miniaterialists ; but in consequence of Lord Howick's first re- marks being inaudible, what followed is quite unintelligible in the re- ports.

Mr. HORACE THIS'S spoke in favour of, and Mr. SPRING RICE against the amendment.

111r. Got-Lerner was exceedingly anxious that the right of taxing the subject should not be transferred to the Crown ; fur it was exclusively the right and privilege of the House of Commons. The question be- fore them involved a great public principle; for, if the House agreed to this clause, it would be putting it in the power of Government to say what districts should pay a particular tax.

Mr. O'CONNELL congratulated Mr. Goulburn on his great constitu- tional anxiety— The present bill, said the right honourable gentleman, extends taxation. If it extended taxation, it extended representation also. if the people were to be taxed, by whom were they to be taxed ?—by their representatives. So that after all, the bill extended the constitutional principle which the right honour- able gentleman was so anxious not to have abridged. The people' right not be taxed except by their representatives; and being taxed, what were they taxed for S—for remote objects at home or abroad? No‘; for their own local purposes —for their own local benefit and advantage. Mr. O'Connell submitted to the eight honourable gentleman, that his constitutional anxiety might be fully satis- lied with that.

Ile trusted that the House would meet this first check to the bill by a triumphant majority. Sir GEORGE CLERK supported the amendment. Loud DUDLEY S'CL-ART replied, amidst loud cries of " Divide !" and the Committee divided : for the clause, 279; for Lord 1). Stuart's amendment, 192.; Ministerial majority, 87. The clause was then ordered to stand part of the bill.

The fifth clause was agreed to. Lord JOHN RUSSELL had stated that the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge would be exempt from the operation of the bill. This drew from Mr. O'CONNELL the re- mark, that otherwise it would be necessary to frame a clause to exclude the members of those Universities from being burgesses. The sista clause was struck out, on the motion of Lord JOHN RVs- SELL; who proposed in lieu of it, a clause which enacts, that in order to be qualified to vote for Town-Counsellors, occupiers of houses, akc. must have paid all their poor-rates for three years, except those which became due within six months of the last day of August. The clause, as Lord John explained it, would phtae persons It this situation, that in order to become voters they must have occupied te.eadses in the borough for two years and ten months before the day of the revisio t of the burgess-roll.

Lord STANLEY, in order more certainly to insure the full term of three years' residettee, propeatal that the burgess should reside for " three entire years next preceding " the revision of the burgess-roll.

Air. Div err was in favour of one year's rating as a qualification, and would propose an amendment to that effect.

Mr. Guivii: felt inclined to support ilr. Dieters proposition— Under the bill in it, prt•sent shape, a man who omitted his rating for a single quarter would he bound to begat his throe years' qui. !II;cation over again, bow. ever nitwit of the time ntielit have expired, atol all his previous occupancy would Mint for nothing. Lord Jon!: IITsSELL Said, that this difficulty was obviated in another part of the bill. Lord Stanley's amendment would make the occu- pancy never less than three years, but sometimes needy tOur ; and he would thet chive ()Nurse it. Mr. H t-':r: suggested that two year,' residence might be adopted. Lord Si. IAA withdrew his amendment, till the underst,,nding that Lord John Russell would resist any attempts to diminish the terra of occupancy.

Air. I )iviar then proposed that twelve months' residence and rating be a sufficient qualification.

Lord How tea opposed the motion.

It had been said by several gentlemen. that the alfect of this clause would be to disfranchise considetitble number, of persons. Non*, he einn.eiVea that in this there was a considerable mistake in language. It could hardly be said that they &sir:melt:sod those persons, when the real fact was, that they did not pro- pose to extend the fritichise to them.. 'the only titt..-tion hefore the Ilnuse Was, whether they were to extend the enfranchisement to a greater or less extent. Lt his opinion, ther.• ought to he such a length of 1.,illence to entitle a man to a vote as to ,hoW tie It he Was a permanent resident. and had a pernianelit interest 111 the welt ue Ot. the 1),■11,11gh. It ought likewise to be in the recol!ection of the !louse, that, by the old system, the thing which condo! a perscu to the freedom. of a borough Si'.' birth, or a servitude of ',gee!' years. Ile would a,k, if it were proper ilea tho-e who had only a temporary noun st is the town should have the power of laying perittati,:et louder, ulatn the inhabit tuts Alr. EWAltr, 11'1-A -1, 11r. Hu re, and Dr. Cowman:, supported

Air. Divett's preaosition. It was reiceted, on a division, by to 97.

.A long end desultory conversation ensued on an amendment pro- posed by Mr. .11.1telS, that person, carrying on !nsitto-t, in a place, even if they did not reside within seven miles of it, should have the right of voting. The sense of the ('ummittee v.as eeainst this amend- ment, it ail it was withdrawn ; Lord Junix 11 reseat. Laving stated that he svottlil consider of a more comprehensive mode of describing rateable property. Another disetasion arese in cemseleteitee of Sir liteeirea rEri.,, re- commending, " that payment of the 1,orough u s w, II as the poor-rate should be required fain, burgesses. It seas understood that Sir Robert would have proposed an antendutent to that (Mart; butt, after much time had been was;, d, far sitid, it would be better to postpone the dis- mission, as he should have other °ppm (unities of proposing his amend- ment.

Lord Joux 'least:Le svislied that Sir Robert had stated this some time sooner ; because he had wished for an adjournment, but Sir Reheat had objected to it, saying' lie W0111(1 not leave the clause half discussed. Lind John had rather, certainly, that in It ()hat post- poned the discussion of his awe: anent, them obstruct the progress of the 11111 that night.

31r. Sumi. complained of the lost time : Sir 'Robert Peel might make his :notion on the bringing up of the report. laird SaNnoN moved that the Chairman report progress. ( Cries of " Die ide!") Sir lineetre Pere. said, warmly, that gentlemen 'eight divide, if they liked ; but he should take his own time, and no one should suggest to hint how lie should act as a Member of Parliament : he would not wait till the report to make his motion. Mr. Swat. said, that Sir Robert's warmth was quite uncalled for; and recommended him to preserve the same equable demeanour on the Opposition that be had maintained on the AIinisterial benches.

The Committee rose soon afterwards.

The discussion was resumed on Tuesday. Clauses fell, itit, and Pat, were agreed to is itliout any material amendment, after a desultory con- versation in a very inattentile Committee. Clause 9th was read in a distinct tone by the Chairman, Mr. BERNAL ; aad immediately the talking :Members became silent, and those who were standing at the liar took their seats. 'Phis clause enacts; that no person shall be en- rolled as a burgess except by virtue of occupancy and payment of rates.

Mr. A. Tuevott proposed to omit the clause altogether ; and he supported his motion by a speech of some hetet', and considerable vehe- mence. He was seconded by (we believe) Mr. EDMUND PEEL ; but after the discussion had proceeded thus far, Mr. Pu.sers called the Committee to order ; and the Chairman decided that it would be the most convenient mode of proceeding, to dispose of the proposed amend- ments oil the clause before considering the motion of Mr. Trevor; which that gentleman accordingly withdrew.

Sir WILLIAM Fore.rar then rose to move an amendment, to the effect "that, without interfering with the municipal government of corporate boroughs, all the rights, privileges, and properties of freemen for other purposes, should be preserved." Sir William maintained that his amendment, if carried, would not obstruct the principle or intent of the bill. The clause, as it stood, would have the effect of extinguishing the inchoate rights of freemen, their rights of property, and various pri- vileges to which they were entitled; and he was not sure but it would have the effect of preventing all rxisling freemen from voting for Mem- bers of Parliament, as it certainly would prevent apprentices, and those who had not yet acquired their freedom, but who had an inchoate right to it. He contended that a robbery of vested rights was committed by this clause ; and he enlarged upon the considerable value of these rights to the freemen. In illustration of this part of his argument, Sir William referred to an account which he had derived from a well-informed and

• unexceptionable quarter, of the funds which freemen of Coventry had tr right to slime in by virtue of the milt of Sir Thomas

Every freeman was entitled, on commenting business, to the use of 501. out of Sir Thomas White's charity, to be repaid in nine years. liesides that, evei y freemen decidedly in want had a right to demand out of the funds of the Sallie ellality the sum of 4/. Again, there was an widowed grammar school, supported by the rents of estates, yielding tsar/. a y.-ar, to which every freeman had the right of S4'1111711.4 his ■11111, ‘vhcre hewas t inward flee of expense. There were, too, estates left fur the purpose of binding out as apprentices the children of freer !n.

Now he contended that the House could no more deprive the free- men of I 'oventry of their rights 111111is•I' Sir 1 humus Whitys will, than they could strip any gentlenum of hie private estate. The clause also deprived freemen, or at least their children and apprentices, of the tight of voting 14 Members of Pal liament. notwithstanding that I iglit la as solemnly n secured to dam by the 11 e b win A ct . IIere ■vas an indirect attempt to do vvhat no Minister would dare to do openly. I It booed the I louse of Commons would not sanetion this violation of faith, and interfere rice uith the rights, privileges, and property, of so large a pro- portrrer of the people of England.

Sir JoirN Camel:ELL (the Attorm y-1 ieneral niaietained that the proposed amendment would most set Musty dallli4f0 the bill. The free- men bad no exellisive rights ahielt weir not founded on usurpation ; 211111 the t (CO. of the amendment would be to perpetuate those rights in :thow111--to coutimie as long as England existed the abuse of (Allusive privileges in boroughs. 1 le knew an, a lawyer, and as an antiquary, that the rights 111/W monopolized by the freeno n belonged originally, as they thirty belong now, to the inhabitant householders. There u t re legal difficulties in the way of keeping up the race of freemen— \V bo in future were to admit freemen ? Corporations were variously consti- toted. Sometimes a corporation consisted of a Mayor, sometimes of a Mayor and Aldermen, sometimes of a Alaym and CO111111011 C01111e11. It Was clear that the freemeu could not be admitted by Aldermen, for Aldermen were abolished by the MIL Who was to determine if the rights of the claimants to freedom were properly stated or not ? The jurisdWtion of the Court of King's Bench would not exist after the abolition of the existing corporations.

Ile denied that the Reform A,!t should be held to preclude future legislation on the subject of the clause— Was there any one so insane as to wish to tie up the hands of Parliament on this point for all time to come ? It appealed to him that the clause under C1111.- bideration Nras essentially necessary for the purposes of the bill. Let the Com- mittee consider what the great mass of freemen were. They need not be house- holders; they were not required to possess any property ; they wete not called upon to pay any rate ; they might pass the greater part of the year in gaols. Whet was the consequence ? That they were in general in a low and degraded Mate. and were unable to withstand the temptation of a bribe. Iu almost all boroughs it was the freemen who were notorious for their di:position to In ibery. It was said by his honourable and learned friend, that other classes of votets slimed in the infamy of that imputation : fur himself, he firmly believed that the freemen painted the whole mass of electors, and that omit they were eradi- cated it would be impossible to expect any thing like polity of election.

IIanvEy saw much statesmanlike wisdom in the clause; for it would reduce the existing constituency by about tow half, and thus prove, what he had always contend( d fur, the o«.essity of extending the right of voting for Members of Parliament. With respell to the rights of property, their value to the freemen had been greatly overstated by Sir W. Follett, at least as far as the property in Sir Thomas White's charity was concerned— This property, which was originally •20001., was to be placed at interest, and divided amongst twenty-tour corporations, amongst which were Bristol, ( lx ford, and Coventry. Your pounds per at11111111 Wan allowed to the Mayor of Bristol for going round and attending to the distribution of the money amongst the cor- porate bodies entitled to it. The corporation of Bristol invested the money ( C1 NH'/. ) in the purchase of land, which now produced 2,100/. a-year ; but the Bristol Corporation contrived to keep to themselves that amount, with the exception of some trifling disbursements to others. Oxfanl city, which was never backwatd in asserting its claim to every thing to which it considered itself entitled, claimed its right to have 200o/. once in every twenty-four years; but the claim was resisted. Coventry, instead of its twenty-fourth share of the 24•10/. a-year, came in only for I 14 d. every twenty-4.1w years ; and this, he supposed, was one of the rights of property to which the Member for Exeter adverted, which he could not but look upon as an overstatement. l'suw, he thought that where proper ty was left for schools or other useful pur- poses to a cutporate town, instead of being divided among the freemen gene rally, its benefits ought to be sluned by the townspeop:e at large. In Colchester there were sources of education for the suns of burgesses, but it turned out that the masters of the schools took all the income, and there were no scholars suppor ted out of it.

Mr. 'Wt.'. u (the Solicitor- General ) contended that it would be absolutely impossible—not merely ditlicult—to establish a good system of municipal government, if the amendment was carried.

In it few years, what would be the state of most of the corporate towns? There would be one class of burgesses—the useful and the important—contri- buting to all the expenses, and performing all the duties; and they would be surrounded by a pauper aristocracy, privileged and useless. It would lie impos- sible, with reference to the common principles of human nature, that such a system could exist without jealousies and heartburnings that must eventually destroy it.

Mr. C. BMW!. A Y and Mr. W. Wit.t.tAms spoke in favour of, and Mr. VERNON SM ITO against the amendment.

Sir JAMEs GRAHAM wished Sir William Follett to divide his amendment into two parts— The amendment went both to preserve the Parliamentary franchise of those who had acquired an inchoate right thereto, and also their inchoate rights of property. What he would suggest was, that Sir William should divide hi, r.mendarent into two parts, the first of which, relating to inchoate electoral rights, applied to this clause; whilst the second, relating to inchoate rights of property, really concerned the tenth clause. Many gentlemen might be in- clined to agree in one branch of his amendment, whilst they would not in the other.

Sir James admitted that he was averse to that alteration of the Reform Bill which secured the right of voting to freemen ; but that arrangement having been once made, ought to be adhered to— He did not mean to say that the arrangement was to be held permanently binding upon the Legislature; but when he heard Mr. Harvey frankly exclaim- ing, as be had done that evening, " Reformers, be comforted ; in this clause I see the seeds of further change in the representation of the people: " he would saw to those who had been colleagues of his in the Government of Earl Grey, "'Beware !"

If the alteration was to be made, he would say that it should not be made indirectly, but manfully, openly, avowedly.

Lord JolIN Russi3.1. thaoked Sir James Graham for his warning and advice, and would tell him why be wus not disposed to act on that advice— Ile owned he was not the less indisposed to follow his advice front Opal-viol; that this was not the first time in which Sir James, who had co.•outneted slung with 1 all the dangers ;old obstructions which beset the Iiiivetion,t dating the carrying of the Reform hill—dangers and obstructions a Melt sir James knew to be a, great as those which any Covernment had eel I erietion- tered from Tory initellittations—had allowed to enter into his third oio t fin fears ;mil apprehensions, which lather betokened that in cunt-liming I owertonent to carrying the Reform Bill, Ile had tint duly and sober ly us i•l. d its legitimate and unavoidable conclusion. Lord John had observed, Leith ,ottio gree of amusement, that if the Member for South ark. or the Al, Oils, r Nlidillesex, or any other honourable Members who carried their of iuioi.s flu_ flier than he dill, spoke of any further and larger refit' ins which they thee ..4 wi-r in themselves, and certain to be eventually cabled—he had ale-ere...!, he slid, with some degtee of itintisenwitt, that it was only tweessavy mention such projects of leforiti, to fill tlw mind of Sir James ( abant tti,h the must unaccountable alarm, atal to set his very hair on end ev tar at the visions of danger which passed In fine his excited imagination. t (..o, is etml liwylsfre fnmi the uisicte.,1 delits• 1 Acting under that ,i1 feelitig of alarm, Sir .1,,Ines Criliani had thought proper to stippo-e ti 0 were now arrived at that state of 1)09H:trial ;mil rabid elriu:;0 ire m c!. Ce,re was no security at ail fien the peace and property of the cottony. t cries " Hear ! " /'rant (1ppooNitimi.) Ile did not blow.- ai.,t was the meaning of tit it cheer. (l uo,lleter fr41111 Opposit ) opinion, however, was directly the reverse of that whir+ be sitsperbol to be meaning. Ilis opinion was, that the people of England woe hem, and bent upon reform; but that there never was a country in the a,. rlil in Which the tiding in favour of reliant had been more carefully formed, and itt which ever Y step taken to promote it had been discussed with greater shrewdness. Nt'heni any thing was proposed tv [licit was calculated to endanger either the promo ty of the country. or the safety of our ancient institutions, you had an instott !chomp]

of public feeling against such a measure. Indeed, he would go the length of saying this, that, though the opinion of the people of England was made im in favour of great reasonable reforms, there was nothing like any violent fooling, any mad enthusiasm, iu favour of any innovations which Were likely to prove dangerous to the public peace or to the safety of our general institutions.

Lord John then defended Ministers from the charge of attempting to alter the Reform Act by unfair or indirect means. The chose in question was the necessary consequence of the new franchise— There were two separate ends for which it was proposed that the t ight4 Of the freemen should be preserved, and for neither of which, he confessed, he thought they ought to be continued : first, the general right which they hail boo; cu- joyell, and which was still preserved to them by the Reform Bill, of eloeting Members to serve in Parliament. Lord John Russell was far front sayiug- that the I louse ought to introduce a special provision, or to pass a special act f it the Ili4ranchitsement of the freemen ; Inch on the other hand, Its said 6,11 if the !louse preserved the franchise of the free-men only for the purpose of (forting Members to serve in Parliament, it would be doing a thing calculited to trice a very prejudicial effect upon the Parliamentary right, as well as upon the in- terests of the municipal corporations. lle thought it had been well put hy the solicitor-General, that the effect of preserving to the freemen their Podia- ineutary rights alone, must in a great degeee tend to prevent the good govern- ment of the corporate towns.

Ile did not know bow the amendment could be carried into effect— Government proposed certain machinery for the correction of cue porate abuses, and by which the Alayor and Town-Council were in future to he el, mid. But how were they to contrive that those freemen who belonged to no coo pota- tion, and whose rights only were preserved to give them a title to corpit.ot- olia• lines and to the exercise of the Parliamentary- franchise—how were thee. to de- vise a machinery by which persorm possessMg such anomalous rights were to have all those rights confirmed, he confessed he was utterly at a loss to eotievive. Ile would ask the Committee, would there not be the greatest danger. if err ill, one side they were to create a municipal body having the rights and priedcges which municipal lushes by this bill were to possess, and at the same time ta place by the side of them another body receiving a monoply of charities, and en- joying a monopoly of trade? Would there not, he asked, he the greatest d weer if such a state of things were allowed to exist, of exciting a constant rivalry is corporate towns, of depriving the corporate government of the authori,y wal in- fluence it ought to possess, and of giving rise to continual struggles bet weon the old corporators and old freemen, to set up their influence against the corporate government established under the new law, thus endangering the good

quiet, and peace of the town, which it ought to be the first object of the tieese to secure?

Lord John concluded, by declaring that he would most strenuously oppose this attempt to mutilate the bill.

Sir JAMES GR A IIAM, in explanation, avowed that he considered him. self bound as a member of Earl Grey's Administration to look upon the Reform Bill as a final measure— The principle enunciated by Lord Grey on more than one occasion was this— that he and his colleagues brought forward the measure of Reform in the Repre- sentation of the People—extensive as he admitted it to be, great as men the supporters of it admitted it to be beyond their expectations—for One reason, and that reason was this, that because it was so extensive he sought to find a resting- place whereon he might resist steadfastly, manfully., and constantly', all further change. (Loud cheers front the Opposition.) He did not presume to say that that understanding was binding on Parliament. ( Great cheering .1%,da the Ministerial side.) He did not presume to say that it was binding an drat House; but on himself, as a man of honour, whilst he continued to take any part in the public affairs, he did consider it as binding as any obligation that a public man could take upon himself in the face of the nation. Those who bad been his colleagues in Lord Grey's Government might take a different view of the subject, but upon that he had notating to say. It was enough fur hint to he the guardian of his own honour and consistency ; and thus he had been led to avow distinctly and plainly what was his view on the subject.

Sir WILIJAm Fou.Err, with the permission of the Committee, mo- dified his amendment, so that it stood as follows-

" That the rights which were preservecT by the Reform Bill to the freemen, and persons who should hereafter be entitled by birth and servitude to be tree• men, should be continued." Lord SANDON, Mr. ROBINSON, and Captain BERKELEY, supported the amendment ; Mr. SPRING RICE and Mr. C. BULLER the miginal clause. Mr. BULLER said— These freemen were the worst features of our representative system, and were a curse upon the new constituency. He could not refraiufrom expressing his suf. prise at the tlortrines which hail been advanced by noble lintls and honourable gentlemen on the other side. Ile must confess that he began to feel great alarm for the stolidity of the tlitectichical institutions of this country, eeilicti he observed thedettewratic tune svhich those entitle lords alill 11011lita.1111(7 getAlenteci sumetinies took. Ile thought that if ever the limited monarchy of this empire should be by a democratic republic, it would lie occasiorniil by the bidding which those liable tools and honourable gtititlenain sectiwil so nitwit disposer! to ui ike tie the s he of a little temiciratiy popularity. Malein hit Ilearil Lied San- dim spcaf:ing id' the rights of the poor 10.111, lie wt.; mwuulyd of the time when he !list hail the hnuuur of it seat in lie then to laar Ihuoyol.lvmatc the poor flint's rights. it it !immutable NItitliber it \Vhere

'lido'', was how seated ; null the hielt Ilia noble ihis c! timing for these tutor men too right to vote, w,r crude the

'711,1.•,, wiiieh MI% hunt was wont to use in support tif

Coal I it bo that tit:). [loose was infriirting on the (;on-ti;ot ion

be tithing iiss.ay the right:, of soil freemen us those of Norsvit.h, t/x.- fi-ell, at tl Ip.•ss ich ? \Vele mill, IV' IY,C11,1:1`li. to he intrust-A with the ( I in Ice s tit it this I louse se•etilil liei,itriu iris on the purity tif tiieCometitntionhi tmoiliiII4 the of s roots i. the-c Ile calleid 'woo the 11.41... to tale.: ale•o e•veih .Lit'1/11'.17"s of the freemen dwiliscie. who a it d..• 001 hut it was sold tir't a comract

at the p.,-- in..; of the which tie' of freemen

n...1.0 to he if anyict Inn.11 ii•t tin` pilti■••■ with Al Ion!, it 11•.1., 111...!■• ("aIlt; f•i".1"1.:1) their ht.:J.1. 1,7. 11,7 117,I1•(• of Lods, if the 1.cm/tail were th -111, state that th...N%-`,,i,, tf„•y ,12,1-,,e,1 to ;Ix ittdortit 11in, t'ait a pa. kept up, could Ii' cot rtei-I by the miiime ix the A J.;•, 1; loll, tin. .31; bi.q, 0 i,icrieseif •• (111, oh ." (rim ; he ‘VI,1111 1 a• to corillpictl by the inoawy of the icy. Let 0,a flu !loose ■111111l,c that, this zeal to pre-cite the tiAlits of freiniu ti spitiiii; purely out of iii-4,114 to the peer man's tights. No; this !loose, the 1-trge,cnti'l 1:ere,•ive that the oily 1111,1111 this cry w.N foist,' was, that the .•%i Isteieicitcy might preserve tlie rights it men whose franc',,,:: they could purchase.

Lord S111114)110(1 the allit'ili.1111clit, " 011 tlic plain :uul simple

rrn:::,d, that tits• tights of the frecnitm were emiemu.Iv guar 'Metl in ori!er to secure the pit-sing of the Iteforris Bill." fir. t ■ToN:sra.i. %vas astonished at what had fallen from Jones thrithiell and laird Stanley— the. i 6ic el the lIclorni Bill, noire existed two sp;.cier of franchise.;

tliiit nicit and th tt at ising front inunicip I:y the

tics: l al hill, tile franchise arising from nitinieipt1 ri,titts it-as considered so 1), it it tetOrtn, that it NV.I.7; 'TO that 17“•••1• !Zt.t..•1'111 !till 1,1111 '4.1111:7)' and Sir James were lioth And w, i.e Ode rights, twist, solemn p, inow; 1 of disfraniliising it eon poition o r the 11N11,10 of 1171r1 i701inlVt•1■Itt:t itt tie-•• r■In.'1.:•:: Since the inrt in it the Iii-t ill :--'.chit in •Ft'ase 01' 1-:11 had tlui• ii it :warer s••:.•.i i th • unpin Lowe of the functiiiii vested in ? 't lee it ve.'y g:e.it c.:' '„•tot e uri ti...v h t of the t!is..i cl, ;t:,: W:111. having hi t in ■•• i•a if [1,7•1i.) 'filay hail heard of a

111:1,1e stall the other v,•

,•• 1'. t, t I !- I r.1,? ‘1.11,1t 0112lit t11:' 11■1:1,1Y J•111 • 111i II: • i..• P.•111:!0 ? of 1■10.1 i •it`l•I'V.:1•.; till. (*Mi.:L.:till I 'till ph..iciples, and trii LAI ii, ti. • 77111'1! 1,1,71t11 it midi! Peers! They ex,ort,..litota th...t. !louse their notilittat ion bormighs, iii oril,:r to give the People

tile right • i icp:-..sentation ; toad what were di:2y told luny ? Why, it :442111•:11 a

[Kogan' been made with that =onto' House of Peers, that they should retain a porthm t: their power through the instrumentality of those very free• riwa; um: i,e obitrt and effect of the ;Intendment ey us to give the Peers—not a direct ''inter tit lionduation, but an indirect power of nomination, by means of

the grin-i-I and the worst corruption. '111,7 complaint which had been urged was. it the present measure was an indirect way it getting rid a tbese

votefs. The coal conga:dot was, that it was a greet deal too direct. Wiien he was reminded of indirection, too, let hint ask, could ;my thing be more indirect than this t to get rid of one of the most valuable portions of the hill ?

'rho Committee then divided : for the clause, 2,7S; fur Sir William Follett's tonenii went, -2;12; Alinisterial majority, 16.

31r. A. '1'nEvint proposed, but subsequently withdrew his amend- ment; turd gave notice that he should again bring it forward when the report was brought up. The clause was inserted in the bill, tool the Chairman then reported progress.

Ott Wednesday, the tenth clause, which abolishes the exclusive rights of freemen in boroughs, came under consideration.

Lord Joire llussei.r. proposed to amend it so as to secure to ap. prentiees the rights they expected to obtain by servitude and the pay- ment of premiums. This amendment, after some discussion, was agreed to.

A long debate ensued as to the extension of the rights to the sons of freemen, as well as to burgesses. Sir ItouEier PEEL gave its his opi- nion, in respect to the right of participating in corporate property, . . . . . that those who were now married, should not hereafter by mar- riage derive any tight to participate in this property; that those who had not yet cutored into sin vitude should not have any such tight ; but that those who hail Mt entered into servitude should be considered as having an inchoate right ; and that with respect to bit th., those riots' actually bora should be put upon the same footing as those who had now actually entered into servitude, while those who should hereafter be born should participate in the property only so fir as they were members of the commonalty it large. lie thow;Itt thi4 would be putting corporate property iota the baud, of the commonalty as speedily as pos- sible consistent with justice to the rights of null vidihils,

i,ortl JOHN Russchr. thot,l t favourably of Sir Robert Peel's pro- position. It was opposed, however, by 111r. 1.11..seebratee (the Chair- Man of the Corporation Comliiis.ionnrst; who said that the sound prin- ciple was to pay no attention whatever to inchoate rights.

Mr. ROBINSON moved an amendment to preserve the rights of free- men noiv born.

Lord flown:It agreed with Mr. 131ackburne,

. . . . that it would have been most desirable to retain the original clause jf possible; but he was convinced that its practical effect would have been to

occasion barilshii s which it would he quite for th • I louse to i.rement

or remove.. It hail been distinctly proved, that in St1111‘.• Ott entering into their apprenticeship, Stile mot invie.y the ortli- nal y premium to the master tvli,•111 they served, but f of :At/. into tlei eat po- tation chest, as they di•tnietly said, n ill' -1 tilt111.• ps.ctraiary 1.1,•nt•tits %%Inch

Avere afterwards to result to therm hoot the aeiptii ed. lit these

pet sons basing paid fir their frt.olont, it xvoi11.1 be quite impos-

sible for that !louse to deprive them or it. It was quite impossible to distin-

guish the cai.es in which :to increased pteminill it el It •i•I1 Witil %it'll' to the ulterior advawt.,,, to Ii.: g i led ; and its in ail cost,. olapprenticeship ,tonc- thing was hoe,' .//7, p ti 1, some actual site lee pcounsel, with a Vil•X 11, illC11•••

niary :tivantages, tlwn;2,1tt it fur ill th.,.• ...,valit_r;es should

he 1,11,1•1Vei/ to Illt• li unties I in sti ict ! irtiacilth•s, ineltuate lights might stand oil !•■,tiii!; With lout umatillv speril,ing, thole could be no dtotht that a tight %%Lich was inherited, ai.,1 which it■eit a great ::Luse mid an steed on very greitilik loan

ime acquired tole.

lIc would therefore oppose 11r. Ilobittson's motion. _liter stone further disettssicn, Sir ll'itaavNt Foata.1" r said. lot should propose !hitt till vela) at the passing of the act ssiCle ClItithni by inclionte to etatain Lois ile,;es, including exewption from tell, should iction those laird .loin' s-I t.I. cert.:duly could not vote to co:Ail:me the tion teem toll ; but was di-In,-td to pie serve the riclits of the sons of freewill ulrealy horn. Hei requested sir illiam ;1, tt to slio‘v hint his witeiali.:elit the next ; and itilli'li! it Of the dcbmvh if lo...7as ‘''1V WI it 5V.Is till` 11!1.itl•-;711■,:i11•4 that he was not ti/ lie kneed, as is the discussion oil the Bch,: in Bill, front one amendment to another.

The (.'ottonittee then re.-c. the debate heit.1 adjourned.

3. Tun Inisit Curio it.

Last Lord llama for leave to 'nine in It hill "for the better tegulation of the Eeelesiastical Revenues, and the promo-

tion of lit chi:ilium, and :Moral Instruction, in Ireland." for sums %line hi; Lard•-!ills was unable to to Intielt noise :mil intern'''_

than of the 1 loa.e, occasioned by 'Mr. teem:slier Jackson persisting in claiming it lie,tiing n a matter relating " personally to elf."

From a previous di relative to I ',done' hart:A.:11's eliarcie uu .`sir. the Irish I io rister.— in the liell'••4' Mr. rd,iiss., Air. eiConiaill, and I hilichiel Ihireeval, had spohen svarinly,--ht was evident

that to allow Jack.aet to speak. wand,: have led to Which the 'Jr nut permit : finally Mr. Jech-het ss to sit ;

I'11111:11, 110'd his speech. I le (.!I di:1:ctilty of the task.

then prom the 1..ittire of Ids wells:ire. tir-tearence Iii il,t . • si0I t,,�thi

I 'ainii•'i. 1l •i • -I th,. II he :%!

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: '1: • ;]. : .•• ' l•rylie t Lotri

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I I:1,', it! I. V. I:- 11, 110 ".. • .i, I 1 lint m1%110 d an h r. money. an iny i. I it mei: 1,, 1.1 remainder of the or lie pre:, .1 I,' apply t4M'ata, the Irrl'::1••■ of 1;'31; ;i11.1 it \could hardly- suffice to di-:!'.at them. The 1', ivy ss be empowered to collect the remaining arre.u.s front the latitliords, subject to at deduetion of 2.) per ete.t. Ibis plan \stolid ineolve the giving up of the million grant; which it stets Iliot" :111111.1i-fed rculd nut be recovered trots the clergy. Ile proposed that in future, for the composition of tithes, it rent-charge should be substituted, at the rate of 76/. for evet v I4,6/.; to be. paid by the (Avner Of the ti..st estate

of inheritanee. Ilardine's Dili made the rent-eh:Ilea. 7.V., and the bill of last year made it only ; but then thew was in that Lill no rentis,iiiii of the million. he tent-ellarge would be -object to the expense of collection. which would reduce it to (is/. :ts• ; tint clergyman would reesiive 7:1/. ; the diffi relive to be mule up by an advance from the public funds, to lie eliar....sal on the l'erpetitity

chase Futtil : the illy tithe-owner would unit r«.eive his OS/. out of every IUIlL I'rovision would be watle for the revaluation of the tithes, whenever required. These acre the lea ling toovisious of his bill as regarded the settlement of the Tithe question. With respect to the future appropriation of the Church Ilevenues, the principle he proceeded upon was that of Lord John Russell's resolu- tion. His aim was to maintain the Protestant Establishment in Ire- land ; but in so doing., he recognized the principle of " no work, no pay." Lord .:Morpeth then refeireil to the Ileport of thet'onnilissioners of l'ublie Instruction ; which he maintained to be sufficiently accurate for :he purposes of legislation. ' Front that It eport, the vast dispropor- tl".: of the revenues of the Church to the nunilmr belonging to it was ; and the way lie proposed to remedy the evil and injustice ni.sing from this state of things, was, in the first pleate, to soisiiiind the presealtai"a to t bendier iu whiett the nontlyr 1')WeNte.ots Jid nett creet..11tttit. Where, however, there was ('VIII one weniber of thet Established Church in a parish, his spiritual wants 'would he provided for by his being. transferred to the inini.-ter of the next 'no Ivotdd receiNr per annum as it coir er by tlic ippoint- meta of a curate with a salioy tit' not less Bunt IC/. nor more titan

per al1111.11l1; to be iixod he the Bishop 0f the diocese in

roujunetion with the Ecelesia-th.:11 Cehinii.sioners. 111.-re there is a glebe-house, the curate is to reside is it. cost free ; and have the

benefit of glebe-land not exceeding r annum in value. In places

where there are l'rotestants but HO I': Worship, a sum net exceed- ing 1:10/., or an annual sum of 1:il., would be devoted towards providing one. W'here'ver the rep:mile in any benefice exceeded :WO/. per annum, the het would be reported by the Ecele-iiistical Commissioners to the Lord LictitenaLt ; and suitable reductions, if necessary, w-ouid be made. There were no fewer than l.il parishes in Ireland where tliero were no members of the Establi,hed Church; in

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194 parishes the numbers were less than 10; in 198, less than 20; in Del, less than J0; in 107, less than 40; in 77, less than 5o; so that the total number of parishes of imted by the bill would be 860. A considerable fund would arise from the suspension of the pre- sentation to the benefices in Mild' these parishes were included, and front the reduction of livings above aOR II. in yearly value ; and Lord Alorpeth calculated that this fund, after providing for the i1. pug nun UM to the ininistels, and the saluries rof curates, and the charge of hiring or ereetieg places of vvorship, %%mold yield ammally a5,0701.— 47,149Sf. front parishes in Royul or Erelesiastiral patronage, nod 10,1781 1'10111 parishes in lay patronage. This swedes of.'el,071)1. would be applied to the purposes of religious and no .1 education of the people, without distiloction of sects, act cording to the principle of Lord John Iltisoll's resolution etiolate! by the llouse. Sir !Dane Ilanoisoits Alr. Steve., Sir Itoelata Peet., and Lord ST A NI. 1. Y, eNvil.stied tile111-CiVeti tIccidedl -tile to the priffi•ilole of the measure. Mr. Stem it was isto Whal to de: troy the ( 'Introit ; and Sir Iii NM" 11:11101M; t. tiCeLl'ed it tt.:/-, worso. than he could possibly have maieipated. All. Hume, 31r. C. 21. Wale:;, and Lord Jolts Ressi 1.1., defended the plan.

The bill seas then ordered to be brought

CON] irt'l OF 11t1:,I1 CostsossoosAaas.

The of Lela sa, OH e:Mcd the attentiee of the llotoe of Peers to the runtime of the I anumissionours tit l'ithlie Instruc- tion in Ireland. lit presented a pa titbit' front Ale Alatig les, a eleley- Mall %Vito had exerted himself greatly in the 1'1.0(e:tent ealf,l! III the 1,4111111 of s1 chill, iii the archilitea•se Of lawn*. 'this gentleman com- plained of the obstruction and abuse he received from the Cathodic iwit•st• ; lout his sole Charge againo.t Mr. Newp000t, the I 'otionoissionter, was, that nit ("Tressed alr„t:l/::tiou of his proceeolines per- sonally to Alr. Alatades, he had said tool hi: g about them in his Report. 'floe 11•-loop then preset:0AI a petiticn leunt the Reverend AIr. Stoney, of Bus. ..•• ;Jed:. ; \VIM avo ire 1 that the Cutionti-sioners who lei visited his parish :owl (modulsI d their examination toetotOo!y ; ;led he prayed the Ilon-r to take measures to pre% eh• fur the l'1111.1y of the ri i,tiotts in-

structs:, s of the people. The Bishop pro t! ;:i•pie ;It vrt. it length,

that II: • (7411:;::tis!..iotters not ea ruled the duly assigloe•I to them, but 11soi foollaw ed another and an mime hare, II comae The t"oininis- shorter-, instead of inquiritig into the ;Fetes modules1i le• the II Hebei of the Church on one band and the sidle inn of the ( Mtheies on the other, Lad consido red their implies., to use their own wet oho, "essentially of

a stooti tio• tl toatotre." Now, valise was the uto stoioas of "statistical? "

Air. Todd, in his edition of afro/moos/a 21, gave as its tin-t mean- ing, "political." It', thee, the essential maim! lof the imittiry was po-

litical, it was clear (moue h. Mr. Todd %vent on to say--" Statistics,

that hurt of the maim e of politics which ili.liates the streneth, the re- sult:yes, and the vesalth of a nation."

1)id 1 ,-i.tot • tht n etur-itler tint it soles theit .!nt• to imittire into the -toms! to. e.o• os., wool tie wraith ./I the 1- lid :III!? If they

did, 111..•; /' .; 1. d Ito,',:d ,.ppe:r. however,

tlra th.• t -...; II. • itor.L.:. ta/1r caten.! to the pet I. . 1,1_.,:-i 11 of

was the

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of Il,t o . o s jol o .; la ola• sa. e la Is!! oil i..• It :is oi. oo so sieno us i'..00le• lot flee all tho v ! • ! to a., os., t•• oa I., • I. I t ; hoo

l'uomatiso • in the varier, pat: 1:.••, .;• . ; ,,,lot: dissentiog f; otti the Church.

wished to give evidenre Its to Os. I :motion of Pro- testant; in 1:is pati•h, Ina he eoulol t s t Ubta:11 ant. ; .:h,f1 to this point ; or lie celdol have showle, that violence mool thao•oas sic 1V-V41 to deter

the people from zit:end:lig his elootait ;lee so sol heir ciii:oiren to a

l'roteetant seheol. The Bishop admitted. that tis miser( Li a high lies Stoney had returned to the queries of the Colimoiso-ilners weer ;totem- Feriae and improper.

It was eel tainly highly nub:venting in him to say—,t Tim Popi-h nation;:l sehook ate upheld and suppertt d by a tiovernment whose amino i75-tt fern:alit:es declare the Romig-11 mass to he a bla-pla.unotis, f tIse, tool dangt.rolls ecit thus helping to built! up the sitivastitions dem:mired as contrary to (tod's truth by the law of the realm, and 5 impaling oar-,ties for rebellion, sediton, and treason." agotiti, another capte-sion (vas highly teprehensilde. about the new

Board of Lilocation shearieg Cod's holy %Vold." Ile admitted that there were many taller expressiens etphdly yen-malt:0; hut in sar :lig this, Le did not agree in all the censures lie-ill on the reverend petitioner. Ile fully concurred

with him 111 5111i0g, that he "could tit the worship of wooden crosses, pictures, relies, and wafers, divine service ; " and he thought that the Commis- sioners were censurable for calling the ceremony of the mass divine worship. In one of the artich s of the Chooreli, the mass was oh-signets.' as idolatrous and superstitious. Ire the Iltibritt, the worship of the 115,.4 in the mass was called idolatrous, which no Christian should tolerate. 1k wood.) also beg their Lord- ships to recollect, that the great majority of them 11.11 sworn at the table, that they believed the worship 14 the mass Was idolatrous mot superstitious. There- fore the Counuissiontes had acted most improperly in callittg it divine vt.oislp, The Bishop proceeded to remaik generally upon the character of the priesthood ; and said that their language from the pulpit on several occasions had been so inflammatory and seditious, that the troops were not allowed to attend their chapels. lie then called the attentien of the Mouse to a work published by 3Ir. w hill had received the sanction of the Catholic Bishops, and anions them Dr. Alurray, one of his Majesty's Commissioners for Education in Ireland. He had seen a copy of this book, which contained more horrible doctrines than he had seen in those published even in the worst days of Popery.

Lord DUNI:ANN ON, in a low tone of voice, maintained that the con- duct of the Commissioners had been quite impartial. As to Alr. Stoney, be bad given a return of the 'lumbers of his congregution, which was proved to be false— Ile was infornoed that, by the return made by Mr. Stoney, the randier of his congregation was said to be .:;Ito. This return was originally objected to as in-

correct. Mr. Gillespie said that the number was too more than lo7.)0. Mr. Ihetherty had counted the congregation cm three several ; and on the first Sunday the titamher was 1:0; toi the seco;..l, 1 n; and on the third, 150.

Captain Stewart had also given it as hi- opinion that the :moan r stated by Mr. Stoney was too large; and all agreed in assulittg hint, that as regarded tLe Commissioners, nothing could be fairer or more impaitial than their conduct during the inquiry.

Lord Baorunam had carefully read the Commission : indeed he had mitten the greeter part of it, and attached the Great Seal to it ; and therefore ought to know what it meant— But he could find nothing in the Commission which required the Commis- sioners to enter upon the inquiry which they were now cumplained of for not entering upoo. The Bishop of Ilsteter had said that it was lamentable that the Commissioners had not gout' into tl:is inquiry : now he could not ague with the bishop —he could not regret that the Commissioners had not left the clear line of their inquiry, which could howl to 110 disswIls10111,, to no heal tburoings among any class of religionists, to travel into delaatt.,:ble ground, which it was desirable should ever, if possible, be as pitied, and a high teas almost sure to give rise to volutions and fel:lines, awl what was worst of all, to give rise to politico-religious feelings, which (ought to be lulled liuth in Ireland and in this country.

Lord 1Vteeeow contended, that tlfe Commissioners had not acted upon their instructions.

Lord IIATIIEIVFON de felided the ; and complained of

the irregular speech of the Bishop of Exeter, who ought to have given notice of his intention to bring forward his charges.

The Bishop of Eecrett said, that if it were intended to make the Report of the Commissioners the ground wells of all attack upon the Irish Church, it would be a grass rand uncalled-for outrage— Admitting the propriety of dish ilastittg the l'et'clitleS of the Church in the reamer most conducive to 0 IC propagation of religion, he comet:tied that the dimilottiou of the property of the Chinch in any one parish in Ireland would be ;1. Ii.iiI spoliat km, all a vielatioa both of the Coronation oath and the pria- eipas of the Constitution.

Lora 11.5(NOtI 1101ted that the 1'it,110p of Exeter was sorry for the observations he had made—

Ile 4m11.1 tint refrain front expressing his regret, that at a period when Ireland was eau with religious ilissenswoos, a Christian Itishop should pursue a course liaely to anima the unfortunate animosities arising from them.

'rise Bishop of Ext:Tutt not sorry; but considered himself per

feetly justified in bringing the subject before the noose.

The ;petition was tieoi laid on the table.

-I. Tim CATHOLIC OATH. • Oil 3Ionday, It sharp discussion arose, on the presentation by Sic Boat to INt,nt of a petiti011 from Birmiltelians complaining of the votes of Catholic 3Iembers on questions refitting to Church property; such votes being, in Coe opinion of the petitioners, siolations of the oath imposed on the Aleinbers referred to. In the course of a long and exceedingly thy harangue, Sir Robert declared his accordance in the views of the rtitioners ; but expressed his sorrow that lie was compelled, in the performance of his ditty, to tell the Catholic Aleinbers, that, in the opinion of a large portion of the population, they bad vio- hated a solemn oath.

gnat. and .I r. O'CONNELL Vi:Idielited the coodnet of the Ca-

tLclir and onanotoolverteol severely on the coulee taken by Sir ?toles t 2,1r. Snell. said, that :lie 'Robert's motives as ere liable

to )•toopicion-

fle les1 iewsell ie. Il•o• oaso • al::: sprt.elt betrayed the le longs l.c whish he eaa sista:at. Ili, e. • • o at NV : hp that vile Na Popery cry, which

Lad Len rais: d I .ery 1,5c3 who afterwatos, lt•ht, passed the

very to/...isure I 5r. eroondwoik of their accusations. Tlse sar..e 1001" F1'.•••!1..11 11i; Ills:lolls al e zipF.,iikd to : the r;dliAlt,:e,, the fitit,t • di-• 5.minatcd, in or ler to ooe,•,-terow the adininiaratien, which the lisoasoraiie It oronst derlares t I be sir-tinned by Ilse I ../thlic Aembers, 1111111•%11:1.1t, iii, .■:1•11111111../.01:11.11gS 111 the p'e'as(i)logy which he employs. when he says that the-till-try, without such ;MI, waidd is laid in the 'lit t. t If the ch•g'invellf the expression it is unnecessary to say any thing, its only value conaists in the development of the boo oarable gentleman's emotions, 'shall it ;gaols. Such then is tha state of his mind. 'Entertaining towards the 31inisters a deep, and iu Linn a very natural animosity—a hater of all Re- form-sail opponent a every measure If amelioration that ever was hal oduced —the enemy of the repeal of the Test and CI rperation Acts, of Catholic lImati- cipation. id Parliamentary Iteform—the worshipper of (witty abuse, the idolater of corruption in all its forms, the only matt in this House who has had the aft tomer). to stoma up in fh,11Alre of those sinks of municipal depravity the Cor- pot ations—he Milne:lived at once by Lis prejudices, his interests, his expectations, knowing that floe existing Government will be apt to disturb sineettreism in all

its recesses and to set aside all cm ,,pt and flayil ions a deep anion; .ity to the Government, and lists and fumes at the support which they derive front the Irish Alembees,

Alr. Sheil refored to Sir Robert Inglia's Tanjore Commissioner- ship—

Ile was wailing to make allowance for the honourable gentlemen, and to at- tribute his conduct to his want of due consideratit ti of the matter in which ho

bad been engaged. Ile had net had leisure suflicient to make himself ac- quainted with the subject. Ile w.ts, as it conscientious num, who had taken his oath to perform his official duties with fidelity, bound to give up his entire mind and dedicate all his faculties to tile several commissions connected with the East Indies in which he Lad been el:gaged. Fur the last twenty-five years he had been employed in an enviable way. Safe from all vicissitudes of (awernment, secure from all changes of Administration, he had been receiving his 18)01.a year, of which few people knew any thing ; and as be was a moral and a consci- entious person, it was to he presumed that he had been engrossed by his lucra- tive functions, and determined to give value for the thirty-one thousand pounds which he had received. Ile was at that moment still in receipt of his large annual salary ; and was it strange that for sinecureism ill any furin, whether ec- clesiastical or civil, he should feel a sympathy ? Mr. O'CONNELL felt that lie ought to make some observations in reply to Sir Robert Inglis ; but it was with great reluctance that he troubled the !louse—

able Baronet was fat, sleek, and contented ; and why was he to come forward with charges of perjury in his humdrum manner, drawling on for half an hour together, professing the utmost regret, and making his humdrum as tedious as Lis charge was offensive? Did he think the Boman Catholic Members entered the House without having seriously deliberated on the nature and trans of the oath ? The honourable Baronet stoud forward as the champion of the Church ; but did he not know that the Church to which he belonged bad been one of the most intolerant, until of late years it bad done what it could to wipe MI the stain?

Mr. O'Connell then entered into nn elaborate explanation of the true intent and meaning of the oath ; and der!ared his perfect eonvic- tion that it, should not, as it would not, prevent him from repeating his vote on the Irish Church question,--though, it' the House interpreted the oath di ffereatly, let their interpretation he put upon record, and, as be had lmen excluded by an oath before, he would he again. Ile con- cluded Isis speech by calling upon the House to settle this question—

Ile laughed to :worn tine meetings, the tomfooleries, of certain learned theo-

logians out of this louse. ( Looyhtcr nod cheers.) But he submitted to the Douse—and he put it again and again to the conscience of every man who heard Lino—let his int...rpretatian he condemned by the House, and he would go on and remain out, tin the question was settled. Any man who took ;U1111911,1 (11111IVaS 1)01111d not to ke,p it ; but the perjury consisted in the taking of such an oath. The doctrine of his church was, not to take the oath and then break it, but not to take it at ;ell. It was time, surely, fill- Christians to give up calumny. The hot:‘stant party in Ireland had already been deprived of the ascendancy of 11111111-311111Wir--Ict them give up the ascendancy of calumny : let them not console thennseives in their defeated bigotry by throwing out false ac- cusations. In the abJence of the remnant of that bigotry, let them not indulge in a calumny too bunco to be endured, and too atrocious for any Christian to utter against nue:Alter.

On the motion of Lord Jolts Russr.i.h, the debate was then ad- journed.

5. CASE OF THE DORCHESTER LABOURERS.

111:111V retitilaIS Were presented on Thursday, praying for the remis- sion of the sentence on the Dorchester labourers ; among them was one front :Manchester and Salford, signed by 20.9S9 persons. Several heathers, of different party politics, urged Ministers to deal leniently with the unfortunate Olen.

Lord JOHN ft ussEtr. hoped that Mr. Wakley, whose motion for a remission of the sentence of the Dorchester labourers stood for that evening, would Nvithdraw it, and allow the Corporation Reform Bill to be proceeded with in Committee. As an inducement for him to take that course, lie begged to state, that the ease of the Dorchester labourers hail, as it was necessary, engaged a good deal of his attention ; and on consideration of the whole of the circumstances, lie had thought it his duty to recommend to the Crown ;e remission of their punishment to a certain extent—that a pardon should be granted to the whole of them, upon condition that they should remain in the colony. That was a form in which pardon had frequently been granted. With neleaent to four of Ilanse persons, lie had also recommended, that if at the end of two veassfr/1111 the time of their arrival in the colony, the Governor ap- proved of their compact, no oll'etwe having been committed by them, they should mot only have /lion pardon, lint be enahled to return to this country. Ilia lie did nit tiiiak it hi: ditty to recommend that the same clemency shonIst be ex- tended to the nedwr two; because they were the greater criminals, in fact the ringlcaders cf the party.

Mr. ].costa- (sill:1.A to postpone the motion till the next week, if all the convicts were to receive the same lenient treatment. To this Lord Jolts RUSSELL Would not accede ; and Mr. WAKT.Ea" proceeled to state the case ; which he did in a very able and effective manner, and secured the attention of the House. But it is unfortunate, that scarcely anything that can be called a report of his speech, appears to have been taken down. Ile argued generally, that the men had violated the laws unintentionally, and through

ranee, and that their punishment was by far too severe. Ile read ex- tracts from the letters of some of the convicts to their wives ; espe- cially one from Lovelace, who, with his brother, was described by Lord John Russell as one of the ringleaders. The letters were well expressed, arid gave a favourable idea of the dispositions of the writers.

Wakley concluded by moving an address to the King, praying that the six labourers convicted at the Dorchester Assizes in Spring I83-1, might be paidoned and recalled.

Mr. Hum: seconded the motion.

It was opposed by Lord JOHN RUSSELL, Lord Howick, Sir ROBERT PEEL,.SIr JOHN CA.Itrinit.r., Sergeant WILDE, and Mr. Rohn:. They maintained that the conviction was perfectly legal, though the severity of the sentence had been mitigated ; that the good intentions of the MICR, and their ignorance of the law, granting that they were well.dis- posed and badly informed, could never be received in bar of punish- ment for breach of the law; that their conduct had been very mis- chievous, and tyrannical towards those of their own class who did not unite with them ; that to pardon them, would be deemed by ignorant men a confession that the sentence was illegal, and a triumph to the convicts; and lastly, that the 1-louse of Commons was a bad court of appeal from the decisions of the Courts of Law.

Mr: lIaltvtAr and Mr. BLACKBURNE maintained that the sentence was Illegal ; and pressed strongly for its entire remission. Mr. O'CONNI:LT. had formerly thought the sentence illegal, but he now held a different opinion : the sentence was legal, but it was too severe ; and he hoped that Mr. Wakley would withdraw his motion, as his de- feat would appear to give the sanction of the House to the severity— it would be better to leave the question in the hands of Ministers. 31r. Bao.runivroxr, Mr. MARK PHILLIPS, and Mr. TUIK' were in favour of the motion. It was rejected on a division, by 308 to 82.

6. 'THE SPANISH ARMAMENT.

A long debate arose on Wednesday, upon a motion by Lord MAHON, " That there be laid before the House a copy of the Order in Council exempt- ing his Majesty's subjects who may enter the service of the Queen of Spain from the provisions of the Foreign Inlistment Act ; and also copies of all coin- wumicatiens on that subject which may have passed between his Majesty's Ministers and the Minister at this Court of the Queen of Spain." In the course of his speech in support of the motion, Lord M.utoN admitted that the existing Spanish Government was agreeable to the great majority of tine Spanish nation, and was obeyed in nineteen- twentieths of the Spanish territory. lie claimed for the late Ministry the credit of acting faithfully in the spirit of the Quadruple Treaty; but he maintained that the sanction of Government never should have Leen given to the armament to be sent to that country under the com- mand of Colonel Evans. lie was opposed to defending the throne of Queen Isabella at an expense of British blood ; but if the intervention was to take place,

. . . . he thought that sending, out a body of the King's troops mister the King's commission would be a much letter mothe of etfincting the object, than the indirect and disereditable manner which the King's Orweritient now had recourse to. Ile trusted We bad not arrived at the tittle yet. when, if we thought it desirable to assist au ally, we must do so, not by officers appointed by the King, hat by ca lfing together mercenary bands.

Ile flint-tiled the idea of 111,11(M) men under Colonel Evans putting down the insurrection. On a former ("evasion, France had found it necessary to send [20,100 men for a similar purpose.

Ire must say, his feeling was certainly not favourahle towards those soldiers, however brave, who inlisted but as 111Creell:11./VS—W110 11:111 no country, no home but their camp—who were ready to call th,miselves Em4lislimen to-day, and Spa:Maids or Portuguese to-morrow, Ile did not throw these observations out intending to east any imputation against the of:Wets. Ile was neatly to admit that Colonel Evatis, especially, was not induced to join this 'indent taking by

sordid inotiiTS. Ile felt himself degn curl the character of the country degraded, when he found binds of his countrymen hieing themselves out to engage in quarrels in which they could feel 1111 uteri t. 'file people of this country could not tinge the exelese of the old Sw is:, W111/, On being taunted with letting themselves out for hire, pleaded the poverty of their country- " their poverty and nut their will eonsentenl." Ile felt the strongest objection to our nedopting the system of ontdoitieri v..111111 WaS S/ disgraceful in Italy. . Ile intended 11111011/1:110111/111:1■11111e1 EV:111, in what lie was about to say. He should be very sorry indeed if political hostility were ever to lean him to say any thing disparaging of Lim. and he was not !;oing to s:ty one word disparaging of him in his military charaenter ; but lie 11.01 a tight to speak of his military rank. Colonel Evans was at present, lee believed, aka-pay Lieutenant -Colonel; and he must say, without intending any disrespect to the Colonel, that it' there west ally value in military suhordinarion—that there was, the noble lord who was so long Seceetary-at •War would scarcely deny—he would venture to say that a half-pay Licutenant-Colonel was not a mail to Ine the conatiander-in- chief of tut thousand men. (.1 1,t+..oh, ef all erit s for " (11a, rult I") lie dint not think, with reference to the scale 1/1 1111i11.1VV rani:, that an officer of that standing could be considered to have sunlicient experience. (" 011, oh ! ") If he had, had he sufficient authority ?

Lord PAi.mmisrox would not refuse the papers. called for. lie was glad to bear that the Duke of 1Villington and his colleagues were suck cordial friends of the Qucen of Spain ; but though such appeared to be the case, mud though Lord. Mahon had expressed so much tender anxiety lest the force under Colonel Evans should not be sufficient to put down the Carlists, still the impression on 1..oid Palinerston's mind was, that Lord Mahon would not be found among the mourners at the Colonel's defeat. Lord Palmerston then proceeded to slIOW, that lie was acting in strict accordance with the ter ins of the Quadruple Treaty in permitting the levy of troops in this cotistry for the Queen of Spain. Ile maintained that it was fin- the advatitule in this country to uphold it Liberal sovereign of Spain— If any 111:111 10 11'11 111111. 11111111 111, event of Don catloq succeeding in what Lord Palmerston Inch' to be impossilde---e,i:nhinsining himself on the throne If any 111:111 10 11'11 111111. 11111111 111, event of Don catloq succeeding in what Lord Palmerston Inch' to be impossilde---e,i:nhinsining himself on the throne of spain, and in restoring all those t internal rovernment and of foreign policy which would itteritably aecompany his establishment—if any man were to tell him that snide a eleefige in the state of Spain wordd leave her as efficient an ally in the spirit of the Quadruple Treaty for England, as she

would continue to be if the cause of the eu should triumph.—he would tell that iniividual, that he neither mulersined the interests of England nor the spirit of the treaty in question. They knew that Ettreine lend been, since the French Revolution of duly, divided, he would not say into hostile, but into dif- feeent pan-ties, of which the members of etch have acted together according to their respective principles ; and if they have not met in arms, have not done so because of the anxiety whiele all the Governments of Europe have felt and pro- fessed to maintain peace, and avoid every thing likely to involve Europe in war. The maintenance of peace not only inn the Peninsula, but also inn Europe, was one great object which that (ntadruple Alliance was intended to effect ; and in his opinion, there was no better guarantee for the continuance of the peace of Europe than that allianee,—aa alliance Minified not on any selfish views of in- terest, not fur any purpose of national aggrandizement, not from the remotest design of ag,gression against others, but solely fir the menpoma of presetting the peace of Eurepe and maintainiug the indepentleuce of the states who were parties to it.

Colonel EVANS, in reference to tine expressions used by Lord Mahon when speaking of the soldiers about to form the expedition to Spain, asked whether his Lordship meant to imply any thing disrespectful to himself, or those about to serve under him ?

Lord .MarroN intimated that he bad no intention of saying any thing disrespectful to Colonel Evans.

Colonel EVANS said, that the answer was completely evasive—

The noble lord had said that he meant no disrespect to him personally : was it to the men or to the officers that be meant to apply it ? The noble lord was involved in a series of contradictions and evasions throughout his speech,

both with reference to persons and things. ( Cries " No, no! '' front Me Opposilion benches.) The noble lord might disclaim any intention of con- veying disrespect to himself personally; but if he meant to apply disrespect to those who words! serve with him, he must say that he should, on their part, treat any such intimation of disrespect towards them with all the disgust and contempt which he should conceive it to merit if applied to himself. (Loa cries of " choir!" front lire Opposilion side.)

The SPEAKER said a few words.

Colonel EVANS then proceeded, with considerable warmth, to defend the character and motives of the men who were to serve with him ; and declared that, so far from being condottieri, or Swiss, he would not allow any officer to join the expedition, who was not, in his belief, actuated by a desire to promote the cause of free government and Liberal principles.

Sir ROBERT PEEL expressed his decided disapprobation of the en- couragement given by Ministers to the Spanish levy. Lord PALmEasToN again defended the conduct of Ministers.

Mr. FacTone felt that he should cotnpromise his dignity as a British senator, if he did not raise his voice against the proceedings of Minis- ters-

Ile would always contend, that his Majesty Don Carlos was King of Spain by legitimate authority, notwithstanding the efforts made by an ambitious and unprincipled female to deprive him of his right. Unpopular as lie knew such

principles were at the 1 resent moment, he was a Ways ready to th:c!a:v then w the strongest and govt unequivocal Mr. WAItO was surprised, after the magnificent introduction of :11r. Fector, that he should not have advanced out argument in favour of the cause which he espoused ; and had contented himself with simply declaring that //on Carlos ir•as King of Spain- not by the grace of God, but merely by the grace a the hononiable Member for Rogow! Mr. AVaril wished that the subject hall Keen brotelit before the !louse by a proposed vote of etaitire on Ministers, iesteed !notion for papers ; and then it would have been seen by how. triumphant a inajtaity their rolultiet Was applauder!.

111 r. 'oNs1:1.1. deelarr•d, that this country had an important interct in the maintenance of 1.iberal Governments. Ile expressed his

horror at the cruelties perpetrated not only by Zunialitearreguy, bin by

Anna rivalled, if he dill not exceed, Zuwaletatrity in it of et a lit. Ire took shame to himself for having one, Itccu a -I, teal at a latItiir JOH,: r ..;kue that monster ; and the only At .iy innliso.% Iii• 0,11111 •1 It i Ea% int:. Maid Alina such a compliment, was by this ptiblie d; clan; M.:, of i).! ,a 1, sw of Lis infotions balbatitv. Ile thought this elaintry might to mark its !. •.•of the rechles•nesi %rid' which these %tact:dies tont: :may, in cold liheal, the list.

of their fellow-creatures. Their n L..Ic pacti,at was- toot of totatticr and massat 1'c.

Mr. Clam!: r. reprobated the conduct of Govel mount. _11 Tr.

III satv litaavor defended it. Sir Jolts. Ei.wes. deelarril his I) lit 1 that the Spanish Government never would pay the troops. :lily every thing, would lie pionlised, but nothing pet !Mined.

the SPLAKI.1: tailed the attention of the House to the alt.& Tcat:ti: between Lord .11ithon and Colmtel 1.1..varts. Several 1 !embers am: d the part of peacemakers; and at last the offensis.e expti -ions en both Sides %Vt're qualified or withdrarvri.

Lord MAHON, with the leave of the llowse,also withdrew his motion.

:1Ilseta.r.Ascors SUPJEcTs.

BI:ItKIIANIPSTLA St'lloot.. ()II IVitine,(!ay, Lord (Imo sTos: pre-

sented to the !louse of (7ntionotts a petition from the inhabitants of Great lterkheritp.tead, in 1 lertfordshire, praying for the iliterter, ne : of the !louse to compel a proper yid:cation of the funds of their public school. Lord (;1:131,roN briefly suited the ease of the 14 titioner, but Mr. At.s.ros entered into more particular,. r the school o as 1/r. Dupre, andta I

u .nettine of the propt rty

ti001. per annum- Fron ISI I, the time Dr. Dupre 1,11'1'0'11,1 hi. fliber 111 1111' 3!:1•t• •L'ip

the school, to . icver,tul

the school, or tallier •••■•11....1-:,,,111.. for •1111:o.:; the a hull 1a 1, ,i 11111..• neither suitid,trg not I L- 11 t ).• .■ than ia.e.ia/. w,ts tee( 'Mt! .1111.11!1• 1,1' 1.11.111i■ , .11,111.11.1 i•Vi 1.1

pre as ten-tie. Bovat • .:.t

charter of d, o il,. it- i ti„ e • .•

children in all . tr. : ■I.i,

Illallfatsit solid4s, so. a •;.:;-",,- :. to ; e• • ,

poor of It; i1•11 oil • 1.. : • 1 •••1,. .•

1:11*. ••117!•::i•-iit c.ii!,•et, !I, di :::,•1 •1! ! i

Gram :nu! suml r ; . u ilo• is •, . t, ;.

at tow, looted the ei.,resi: •,, eh • .. t1. • d

thi• I:,/. I. , I be:n t:Hon-,•1 in• thi• I:,/. I. , I be:n t:Hon-,•1 in• ; eel :it, tla• la:•:1 1: .111 •.v•': 1%1 ; :2 9'12/. ; • . : . .■ • • 2,7011t. ; .1,1111.1H- 1 1' 1„. ; neither Master not I o r 4,-r 1, ;r;. ;,;., !pp,. ; ,•••• , 1.11 111111 during the Wiiti:e of -OR ii.,11-2.!! 1,i. I I :1 of licence 1101111111, 141:14 111 1.1111.1/11041:11. lilt till. p1.1•11.;:•• ' 1.1 1-i, i. il".• the duties of OM: nets:et -hip ; that the lass. ii• I t-,1 -1-1!ue C011felittellee of their gtos, toise...tidoet awl I,..•,;■•■•t ; :• ti... ••ti•

one farthing had been paid to the poor of tir. it tt.e : 1 ;us f

the charter. In IN:12, l)t. Dorre hail eiwie to :in .•:, it IV li11 tits risltionets to open the school is the ti-titt, of th• ; 11111 he had shortly alter refused to 51:11111 by ties given -lit ; 111111 at 11.', 1111/1111illt. of 141 children being edile,lti-il itt all useful 1. II-rin:. .■• were hit Moe boys in the school, and these Dr. 1)nin rif,..•■•■1 to bit i, itin and Greek. The ease It as ene of gro-s a:al excited ;,.'nerd ..suet uati�u in the county ; and he ti listed the 'louse would interfese in tt.e. mati• Mr. WARD remarked, that this ahwo Iva, only 0110 11. a cla., o hick required effeetual remedy- One of the itcin, of expenditure was 2,992/. for sei of to an 11tel, Nuw it w is a siip4til ir feature iu the ca-c, that the of any - Master at all, etas matter of very •troug kit-mei:to. .1: I • e t tr.

had hollowed the mdoitil I mon with hi, ,ittcrillatit-e; ex. -pt, int!! d, on 1,1,e IN.-

easion, 1/1-. Volpe, being to pod!, .• hi, a gentleman front Cheltenham eras, by the ruvmend .11 ,smr iou,ldcel.1 to pari,hioncrs a, his I.:oh:I-Master, and neat t It: tied! the dial.- 1.f tie it r three sceeks, after %%hick arduous labour he v., m :at Ira, sieuorLrar,i no tunic of. The " gartii-Iting oldie King', subject,- with all him!, of us, fol knowledge.- whiell the school charter described as the object of it, endowimmt, had indeed becti a matter so tittle attended to, that not a sitigle child bad tot a, long period of time derked the slightest advantage loon the chat iry.

After some r..niarks reprobating the l'initlort of 1/r. Dupre, from CrorteruaN„ Sir E. KNATellia- 1,1r. Wridss, and Sir E. (..,)- DIIINGTON, the petition was 1..id on the table.

BRIIII.RS. A long conversation aro-0, on 1111

motion by 31r. 1lAwEs, that John I'Llglint he reprollan.;,,1 ;:ad __ charged, in order to give him time to prepare ti,: hi, aim-t

the charge of embezzlement practreti by his old r t is. st tal Members expressed their desire that the Note Wit 31agi-tralt s and tia• late sitting Members should be prosecuted Is the I1•,14-t. Tiw tnotiou was ‘r.itlidrinvii, to be brought fer.rahl Lext day by Mr. IlAwts.

Last night, a long, di-cession arose on the 'welt! of ti:.aling tt ith the prisoners in Nervgate. Finally the !louse resole t II, by a ti tij ; i:y of 19N1 to I.11, that Pilgrim and 1 rit-t nt slettild lot rt. iir.i

n...nt!ed and tais• chat at d ; v.hich was iterordioely done. It teas then moved th

row be brought to the bar; but this mg riji crud by to I:27; and it was served that the pot( din nil!) regard to tile I thee prisoners skould be suspended, until put: non, shotill be presented from them promising to give all the rammation iu their potrel relative to the Ipso oh election pr.( yeedings.

Air. 1% Aso,: gave notice, that on AIonday next he should move for a •

Select Comm the to inquire into the conduct of certain parties in the Ipswich election ; and that Samuel I ignold and E. T. Booth, Esquires (the Norwich Alagistrates), be taken into the custody' of the Sergeant-at-Aims.

Balacav AT YARMOUTH. Last night, Mr. Gao're presented a petition from Yarmouth, praying for the Banta, and stating that the voters for the sitting Members had received we guineas each. Mr. T. JIAIUNG complained of these ar paste statements. :11r. Ricer WAsox thought Mr. Baring might have infrwintal the House, as he must knots, whether the money had been paid or not. It was too late to present a petition against his return. Mr. BARING said he should be ready to meet any charge before a Committee. Tha petition was laid on the table, and ordered to ho printed ; :aid Jt. 1'..A.4w: gave Votive, that on Thursday next he tie uld vial the attention of the House to the subject of it.

Pao-,r :•rioN or Ma. Hensox. Colow•I ::• I SI, 111'. (1'(6x_

....me.. and Alr. hod an altercation, 1 . seentioll of 11r. liudson. The bets Ill 1 1 t hi Ilret.y st•ere selected for pile-rem • tene- t...1 ; but the (iron(' ,luny haviiat ::r ten of his hill, lo• (road not proceed against Iludsoo. I ired that at it puhlle dinner subsequently, Mr. 1 flat.i:1nr tia: health

of Mr. 1 ludson, in tioniplimenfary terms. v... 0: d of by ,..'•teal Alembers, that this debate teas got up with a \ he introduction of Lord .Morpt th's Tithe Sewer n (;.1M11-1...Vo",4. ()11 Thursday, Mr. mood for Ii.:Lve to brio:; in a bill " for the relief of lie tenants and eerepiers of :and in Seotlaml front the dattiage done to their crop; by hares, pWasants, and rabbits." Admiral Aliast ma-tooled tl:e irodion : Sir Goete.r. Cfaita. .11 la Ji.itv is, Mr. llowalto, and Captain 11.1.my-as, °pin: •etl. Mr. Ct.e.1.1 is illtd Mr. I r:sfer.r.r stip:toted it. On a divi,,ion, Ow !louse pi'lls,,/ lent to bring in the bill, by ;1i to :Al Dirt- ON rout Ey. :Mr. t!, on Tuesday, in reply toquestion- froth Mr. I'. %I. tle.t his phut for equalizing the ditties- on ('ollee extended only to such es v..as 6w growth (if British ; that Ow ceirce Low in bond liciorging Ow East India Company tvoul,l not lie admitted into the mai ket at tie lower rate of duty. its they.• was no certificate as to its place of grow-th ; and that preemitions w.tild hr taken against the importation of foreign coffee at the reduced duty.

(..t.HLKS (!t "i III: 1loran or 1.01t11-.4. Uts Viedite,dalt, on the motion of Lod v.: itttcltNI:, a Select ('01nitlittee: of the Peers was iippointed

saveral matters relating to the otlict..; of the House. •

nursed a s.ote of th.4.1., to the Earl of Devon, and integrity with oldell, rvb, a 11r. ("ourte-

I the duties a s -ram Clerk .0.■ the 'louse

...a of 11,'[...1.1x,,1 Lori LyNini.tatsr, !dad ;•:1'1 laird S ; eset liv, expressed dicer i:11 I it (V': )111:i• • 1. .1.11111.StlitY, 1...‘,1•!i 1.-1 of• 1- u 1:• - stror. 12.- it favour it i i of 1.::.eatica r litentled, !ha to 1. . o ..:1,1 do atv.,y...tit tbe kindly 1 el; e1; 1,1 • , tliat I',,,1'-lart.s.. mid ; and if they tvtte introduced in Ireland, mom. y la; tahien by force of law hem those o lot possessed it, 1,:r ti: • tel of the lit (ly. '1-ha Duke of Bleu:tor:It said. that was whnt he wanted ; for there ought not to be a passibility of peep!: st,eving ivbeit relief could be afforded them- Ile wished to ,1e intiOdtievd tutu, Ireland a lay:, Iris such a- bad been formerly in-et:low: to this country, but an amended se-trot, which he t!,ouglit would b 'of the greatest 41valitage to Ireland. The 11:II of Limerick had spoken of the teliel voluntarily atrorded in behind to thme who were di-tressed ; be had spo'o'n abo the 1'eor-1 lays ruining this countr)-. When Ireland was suffer- big twin (Iktress tea- telievell not only by what was voluntarily contributed ia that country, but thew was a Ltrge subscription ut looney in this coontry. If it was true that Eati;latul had been neatly ruined, surely the p. ogle here tnIgl:t not to have beutt expected to subscribe to relieve dis:re,s in a eamitty which was not ruined by a st sh in of Poor-laws. land Lim:nick laid s :I:1 that chat ity dell were thing ire i1'•14:11!: 1)11ke feated that IdiateVer it 111;;;Id he on the noble Ears estate, tit on the e,t ate, of tither /wide halls who u idol on their Kul:city in Itcl:tral, it Iva: not su eve' ywhere.

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